Posts by shamus

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What is the history of this forum?

by shamus in

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friends

just wondering how long this forum has been around, and if there is a web page or something like that for it.

the only reason that i ask is because it has been years since i left the org.

and have never heard of anything like this, and wonder how word can get out to people so that they do not have to deal with the horrible feelings alone.

shamus

In the beginning....... there were some p-o ' ed people that used to be witnesses.....

Nice to see some senses of humor here - not like the WTS! About as interesting as a pile of rotten dog food.

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What are the benifits of DA? Should I DA?

by zucker in

i'm wondering if i should just "come out of the closet" and tell my family i don't believe it anymore and da myself or don't make any noise and fade out?

what are the benefits or problems with either choice?

additionally, some have expressed concern over da.

shamus

Good on you for your decision! If thats what it takes to move on, then do it.

Good luck, and keep us posted.

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What is the history of this forum?

by shamus in

jw
friends

just wondering how long this forum has been around, and if there is a web page or something like that for it.

the only reason that i ask is because it has been years since i left the org.

and have never heard of anything like this, and wonder how word can get out to people so that they do not have to deal with the horrible feelings alone.

Just wondering how long this forum has been around, and if there is a web page or something like that for it. The only reason that I ask is because it has been years since I left the org. and have never heard of anything like this, and wonder how word can get out to people so that they do not have to deal with the horrible feelings alone.

Also, I want to thank the person or persons who made this forum available. I am just estatic reading that there are so many people out there like us! Hearing your stories makes me feel human again, and well.

Again, thank you for this wonderful forum!

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Hello To Everyone.

by shamus in

just wanted to say hello to everyone.

as i am new here, i have lots of questions for all of you, but will hopefully have them answered over the next few weeks.

anyways, i was in the truth for many years, and suffered horribly from depression.

shamus

- It just makes me so sad to hear how you poor people have been victimized, just like I. I was not sexually abused, though, and my thoughts go out to each and every one of you who stood up to this horrible, HORRIBLE organization and marched, so all the world could hear. You are the bravest people whom I know, and it is my privlege to read your posts, and hear your stories of strength.

Thank you all for your replies. I will stick around. I just can't believe that this place exists.

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When did the Brothers/Sisters, make you feel UNLOVED,WORTHLESS?

by Fruitcake in

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i felt worthless, when i was a new auxiliary pioneer.

i was having some personal problems, but i was so eager to try my best, and doing quite good in the hall.

i was in a new hall, with a new bunch, and always out in service.

shamus

- This emodicon describes how I felt all the time at the kingdom hall. I never did enough. I did everything right. It was never enough. I was always left out. I was always made to feel like an a**hole. May I pose a question to all of you?

Why do they do it? Why did they treat us so badly????

BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO SELF ESTEEM. It makes people feel better who have no self esteem to pick on other people. I didn't realize it at the time, but it is completely apperant now, having worked with mentally challenged persons with significant behaviors. The elders / ministerial servants / have absolutley NO SOCIAL SKILLS WHATSOEVER. They are taught that they are above everyone else. Combine that with low self esteem, and look out. They were the jerks of the world, still are, and probably always will be. (Just a thought - I could have been one of them, too! )

My problems don't compare with any of yours, and I am actually tearing up reading your pains. They are wolves in sheeps clothing. I know it, you all know it, and thank god for the person who made up this website, so victims of this horrible religion can get much needed help.

The WT society says... "injustices occur, but we must have faith like Job". Well, I am sorry, but that is just a cult way of thinking. We are NOT JOB. NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT WE NEED TO BE JOB. Job was rewarded for his agony, and his friends who betrayed him. Wheras, the weak in the org. is not.

What comes around, goes around. That is all that I can say right now. To all those whom were abused, both sexually and psychologically, I am sorry.

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BORG?

by shamus in

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friends

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what does the term "borg" mean?

i see it posted so much.. oh yeah - nice to meet you all, too.. (duh).

shamus

AAAAAAAAAAH!

Now I get it -

Thanks, guys!

Nice piccy's, everyone.

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Can witnesses now vote???

by shamus in

they can vote in elections now?

have i gone totally insane????.

is this true???????????????.

shamus

WHA-WHA-WHAAAAT????

They can vote in elections now? Have I gone totally insane????

Is this true???????????????

Please, tell me I'm not nuts!

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confused teenage witness

by smias03 in

hi everyone, this is my first post.. i have come to this site for almost 2 months but have been too scared to post... don't really know what i'm scared of but i even set up a different hotmail account when i registered... anyway, i'm a 19/f who was raised a jw (baptised a year ago).

i was homeschooled, and basically had no communication with the "world" even though my father is an unbeliever.

my parents were divorced last year (unscriptual divorce from my jw mother).. and now i'm living with my dad and have not spoken to my mom, not because i have doubts about the truth (she doesn't know) but because she was a hypocrit and liar through the divorce.

shamus

Hi There!

I just joined the board, too and wanted to just give you some friendly advice.

The witnesses have probably left you feeling a bit scared about "the world", and filled you with horrible stories of how "friends in the world" are never ever friends in the first place. HOGWASH! Growing up "Worldly", getting into the org. when 17 (to find happiness, b/c I was depressed), and later leaving after 10 years, I can honestly say that the only bad friends that I ever had were in the org. True, there were some good ones, but look what happened to you! The second you stopped going to meetings, your friend dropped you like a hot potatoe! That is typical of the judgmental attitude / uncaring attitiude that the Pharisees were responsible for doing. It honestly makes me sick how they just stop "assosiating" with a person because they are having problems. That is NOT WHAT JESUS WOULD HAVE DONE. Yet, its okay in the org. (Beware of those ravenous wolves!) Pretty typical of what they do.

It can and will be very scary to leave the org. My advice to you is don't just "leave", but "float away". Its okay to hang with the drifters, AS LONG AS ITS LOW-KEY. The elders will want to DF you, so be careful about going to crazy parties, etc. (like I used to do) You will find soon enough that there are some really nice people in the world, and they won't just drop you like a hot potatoe when you leave.

Bri.

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Does anyone miss those tuneful 'kingdom melodies' ?

by frankie in

is there anyone out there who cannot bear those appalling kingdom melodies we had to sing ?

i never liked them one bit, did you ?

so wonderful to hear proper hymns (not that i'm a churchgoer) but at least they have some fantastic music.

shamus

NO!

I think that they were all boring.

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Health

by shera in

hi,everyone.i'm just here writing this because i need to vent a bit about this,as well i'm a little worried too.. all my life i have had problems with my kidneys.last week i had an ultrasound and it has shown my right kidneys is failing or not functioning fully.good news is my left one is ok so far...good thing all we need is one.. another thing..is my liver.one of my veins,is swollen.does anyone know what causes that?

?my doctor couldn't or wouldn't tell me what that is.i have to get an other aultra sound in july to see if it is gone or worse.

well ,she is sending me to a specialist to do further tests.

shamus

Hi Shera,
Sorry - don't have any great insights. The kidney, however, is an incredible organ that can malfunction for various reasons. If you saw every one, you would probably freak out. Honestly - you are going to be ok. The WORST CASE SCENARIO is you would need dialysis later on in life, with the possibility of recieving a kidney transplant.

Hang in there, and don't worry too much.

Bri.

(Oh yeah! Nice to meet you, Shera!)