Posts by drwtsn32

after reading the ouji board thread, i wondered if anyone had "dared" anything of this nature.. i was always too scared to even watch movies with any of this content.

i do read my horoscope.

my great aunt was into the occult and she was told she would die before she was 50 when she was in her 30's.

drwtsn32

I wonder if my palm could be read - I have a horrific scar that would interfere with it.

Don't worry, it won't. Cold reading is immune to such things. Hell, you could have it done even if you didn't have any hands.

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ouija board

by The-Borg in

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anyone had any experiences good or bad.

i'm interested in your stories.. .

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drwtsn32

And Warlock, please watch the video rebel8 posted on page 2. And please watch this one. At the very least they will help you understand where we're coming from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPqerbz8KDc

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ouija board

by The-Borg in

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anyone had any experiences good or bad.

i'm interested in your stories.. .

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drwtsn32

I don't have to "present" anything, to anyone. YOU are the one who has to prove that your little science experiment applies to every case.

It's up to those making the claim to present the facts and convince others. The ones that remain skeptical and unconvinced until evidence is presented are the ones that don't have to do anything. Those that believe aliens visit the earth might use the same thinking you do: "It's up to you skeptics to prove that each and every UFO encounter wasn't real!" No, that's not how it works. How about at least one believer present some objective, verifiable evidence that aliens have actually been here?

So "you think" and "probably", but you don't really know.

I don't know the specifics. I was speculating. But it is a pretty reasonable speculation in my opinion. Where's the objective, verifiable evidence? Personal anecdotes don't count for anything when it's the only "evidence."

So who are YOU to say what "we" were expecting? Are you a mind reader? Or are you suggesting I am liar?

I'm not calling you a liar; I just think you've been duped by the experience as have most others who believe they work. I'm not a mind reader, I was just using deductive reasoning: You obviously believe there's something to ouija boards, so of course you're going to conclude that you didn't move the planchette and it moved on its own. Ok, do the same thing without putting your hands on it. If it can move on its own without the need for hands, then that should work, right?

I ALSO HAVE SOME FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS THAT WOULD SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU, BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU. I COULD HAVE PICTURES AND VIDEOS AND YOU STILL WOULD NOT BELIEVE. I DON'T CARE IF YOU DO, OR DON'T.

Because first hand experiences (anecdotes) are useless when there is no other evidence to support the claim. Take aliens for example... lots of "first hand experiences" about abductions. No objective, verificable evidence. Lots of blurry pictures and videos, but those are unconvincing at best and are faked.

Where's the objective, verifiable evidence, Warlock? EVERY real phenomenon has at least something. Why doesn't the ouija board?

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JW Ministerial Servant and Elder caught lying on youtube...

by Tuesday in

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here's a set of youtube videos where propoganda techniques asks a ministerial servant and an elder about various jw related things and catches them lying about the book pay attention to yourselves and the flock.

the reaction of the elder is a must-see when he's confronted with what he said.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5odp3qa6oeo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anmrufrgtky.

drwtsn32

I have to agree with Wasanelder Once on this one. The videos were not that impressive.

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phrases that annoy you

by John Doe in

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" users of this phrase are anything but sorry.

what they mean is "i'm an asshole.

now i'm going to prove it.

drwtsn32

"It just molests my craw" -- That one really molests my craw.

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ouija board

by The-Borg in

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anyone had any experiences good or bad.

i'm interested in your stories.. .

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drwtsn32

rebel8 I could kiss you for posting that video. No tongue.

Hands off. She's mine. ;)

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by The-Borg in

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anyone had any experiences good or bad.

i'm interested in your stories.. .

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drwtsn32

Dr., with all due respect, I think your "science", at least in this case, is full of it.

Just saw this reply.

"My" science is just waiting for you believers to present evidence. None has been shown. How is that being "full of it"? And common sense would indicate that if you have to put your hand on the planchette, your hand is what is moving it. Occam's razor and all that.

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ouija board

by The-Borg in

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anyone had any experiences good or bad.

i'm interested in your stories.. .

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drwtsn32

What about that?

I think he was expecting it at some level. Probably believed there was possibly something to the ouija thing. Otherwise he wouldn't have been "frightened" by it moving and then swore off of them.

If I saw something move without an apparent cause, I would be very curious and investigate it. I'd want to see it happen again. I wouldn't be afraid of it.