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  change to Special Assy. Days, CA's and DC's

  by TheListener in

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  i have been thinking about this for some time.

  i have been thinking how the society could maintain the same number of yearly obligations but lower their costs.

  i could see the society making some changes to the assembly/convention setup in the near future to cut costs.

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  They probably generate more revenue at DC's than at circuit assemblies. I remember several times when our circuit assemblies ended with a deficit. I can't imagine how this could be, since the assembly hall is owned by the society. Still, they claim they have over $4,000 per day in expenses at the circuit assemblies. Yeah, right! But they must rake in a lot of $$$ at the DC's, or they would have stopped them by now.

  Also, the JWs like to get together at the DC's because there are so many people there. Seeing so many people helps them maintain their delusion that they're significant in some way.

  Walter
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  Assemblies suck

  by Nosferatu in

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  didn't it drive you up the wall how, after a long week of working or going to school, you had to spend your entire weekend at an assembly?

  the saturday and sunday that you could've spent catching up on some yard work, or even relaxing was wasted away by sitting in a bunch of chairs, listening to stuff you've heard many times before.. i know this used to drive me up the wall.

  it felt like i had absolutely no time to myself during these weekends.

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  I hated wasting my time at assemblies. There are better ways of being "spiritually uplifted". BBQing some steaks and sucking back some suds come to mind.

  Walter
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  My father will lose his privileges if he attends my sister's wedding

  by Goldminer in

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  my sister is planning on getting married within the next few months.her jw husband committed adultery and left her when their son was 7 weeks old.after getting a scriptural divorce she began a friendship with a "worldly" man and now this friendship has grown to a soon-to-be marriage.

  this man studied with the jw's for a while but could see right through them found too many of their teachings didn't make sense so he stopped studying.he's made his stand with my sister and told her she can still attend meetings if she wants to.he's also a good worker and seems to really love the kids.he's not perfect but no worse than many jw husbands.

  anyways,the elders pulled my dad aside on tuesday night and told him he could(could????!@#*?

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  What can they possibly hope to accomplish by this? Will it stop the wedding from taking place? NO! The only other purpose it could possibly serve is to deliberately put a breech in the family. I think the watchtower wants families to be shattered. People without families might be more reluctant to leave the cult, because they have nothing else.

  My dad e-mailed me a month or so ago to say that my pioneer sister is getting married this summer and I am NOT invited. In fact, I dont know her address or where the wedding is going to be. He wouldn't even tell me who she is marrying!

  Since you're not invited to the wedding, and not even allowed to know who she's marrying, what was his purpose in bringing up the subject at all? He wanted to remind you that you're being shunned. He wanted to rub your face in it.

  I'd love to kick his bloody teeth out.

  Walter
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  If WW1 had not occurred, would JW's exist today?

  by amused in

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  just pondering....what are your thoughts?

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  They would still exist. Only the lies would be different.

  Walter
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  If God doesn't want brothers to have beards, why does it grow?

  by JH in

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  men have facial hair and women don't, and that's god who decided that.. so why can't brothers have beards or goatees.

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  This is what was shown to me when I got into a discussion with elders about beards:

  *** w75 8/15 pp. 500-501 Do Not Let Yourself Be Ensnared by Fads and Entertainment ***

  9 Extreme hair styles can easily lead one into a trap of the Devil also, and cause others to stumble. For example, a young man in the United States was making fine progress in his study of the Bible, and he was moved to share with an experienced Witness in preaching to others about the good things he was learning from the Bible. From early youth he had let his beard grow, and since some in the business community wore beards, he felt that his wearing one in preaching to others would be acceptable generally. But in speaking to a lady he was unable to do more than introduce himself, when she said: ?I?m sorry, young man, I do not want to become involved in student revolt.? No amount of explanation after this sufficed to clear up the misimpression. After the conversation ended with the closing of the door, he asked the experienced Witness what had happened. He was invited to consider his appearance in relation to what he claimed to be, a servant of God. Not wanting to be responsible for even one person?s being stumbled so as to miss the way to everlasting life, this new Kingdom publisher shaved off his beard. Would you be willing to do the same or to make similar adjustments if your appearance gave the wrong impression in a certain community?

  Walter
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  If God doesn't want brothers to have beards, why does it grow?

  by JH in

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  men have facial hair and women don't, and that's god who decided that.. so why can't brothers have beards or goatees.

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  Only problem was, they didn't ban mustaches, so all the guys in my cong grew big bushy ones, to compensate for being denied beard privileges. They all ended up looking like 70's porn stars in bad polyester suits.

  I was constantly hassled by elders for having a moustache. Now I finally know why - I must have looked like a porn star.

  Walter
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  Child abuse or consenual relationship?

  by pratt1 in

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  2. child-abuse

  a few years ago my brother - law admitted that at 14 he had a sexual relationship for 5 years with the wife of an elder in his congo.. he was at 19 dfed for an affair he had with a fellow student.. he never told any one about the affair with the married sister, but now 10 years later, this sister and her unsufferable husband are planning to become assistant co. .

  my mother - law, who is still in the"lie" now knows about this affair and has made the statement that she has probable asked for forgiveness in her heart therefore the elders do not need to know of the affair.. my brother - law is going through his own issues and because of the way he has been treated ie.. shunned, basically disowned by most of his family, he wants to expose her and her husband who he believes knew about the affair.. i've recommended that he discuss this with his therapist and that he should think about why he feels the need to expose her now.

  by the way this sister is 2 year younger than his mom.

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  As far as I'm concerned it's child abuse and should be reported. I'm not sure about your local laws, but here 14 is the legal age of consent:

  The Criminal Code does not now criminalize consensual sexual activity with or between persons 14 or over, unless it takes place in a relationship of trust or dependency, in which case sexual activity with persons over 14 but under 18 can constitute an offence, notwithstanding their consent. Even consensual activity with those under 14 but over 12 may not be an offence if the accused is under 16 and less than two years older than the complainant. The exception, of course, is anal intercourse, to which unmarried persons under 18 cannot legally consent, although both the Ontario Court of Appeal(3) and the Quebec Court of Appeal(4) have struck down the relevant section of the Criminal Code.

  There's currently talk about raising the age of consent to 16.

  Walter
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  If God doesn't want brothers to have beards, why does it grow?

  by JH in

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  men have facial hair and women don't, and that's god who decided that.. so why can't brothers have beards or goatees.

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  There is no scriptural evidence supporting a ban on beards. If you want to get scriptural, the mosaic law says a man must have a beard. I can't recall the scripture off the top of my head...

  Someone once showed me an article - I think it was in the watchtower in the late 70's or early 80's - that had an "experience" related in it. In this "experience", a new "publisher" had a beard and was out in "service". A "householder" refused to hear their message because she didn't want to get involved with any "rebellious movements". This obviously took place during the hippie era. (that is, if it took place at all. personally I think the story was invented)

  That's the only thing a JW ever showed me about the ban on beards. I'll have to find the article on the CD.

  Walter
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  Did You Ever Think You'd No Longer Be A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  did you ever dream that you'd be posting here too?

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  When I first became a JW I thought I could never live up to their standards. Eventually I learned that they could not live up to mine. I knew for at least 10 years that I didn't want any part of a paradise filled with people like the JWs. I stayed because I believed the doctrine, and because I was married to a JW. But I had also decided that if I survived armageddon I'd probably shoot myself. Learning about the child abuse scandal made it impossible for me to stay with them any longer.

  Walter
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  Please do not shun me!!!!

  by TheListener in

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  alright.

  it is done.. last night during the announcements a new ministerial servant was appointed along with a new elder.

  yippee!!.

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  Of course I won't be getting my KM as early now.

  Just think of it as being weaned from spiritual pablum.

  Walter