Posts by DS211

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I need help when answering proof of WT being only religion

by DS211 in

ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.

my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.

and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.

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Zoos--right and all the stuff about christ being in us and thrspirit being in us...and paul stating that the mature spiritual man (or woman) is examined by no one. Because its in all of us. And you know the Bible dortnt say 7 billion will be destroyed. It says the wicked. Now correct me if i am wrong but, there is no scripture that ive read that alludes that only followers of one denominatio or religion will survive. Its true that it does say those calling on the name of Christ will be saved and the wicked perish. But there are a lot of wonderful people out there who dont believe in God the same way, or not at all. Where doesit say unbelieving one who do seek righteousness and good things will be destroyed. Let me know if youve found tha scripture cause i havent.

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I need help when answering proof of WT being only religion

by DS211 in

ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.

my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.

and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.

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Outsmartthesystem--a little background. go to my posts and its the first thread ive started. You can comment there if you want or here either way.

Black sheep--we were reading "keep yourselves in gods love" the chapter about birhdays and holidays.

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Favorite scripture in your present journey

by Separation of Powers in

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so, if you haven't become an atheist yet and still hold on to some form of christian based/bible based faith.

tell us one scripture that defines where you are at right now in your spiritual journey.... .

DS211

I love the way SFTW combunes scriptures, reminds me of how things are takeN out of context to apply to whatever you want. ;-)

my favorites as of late are

15 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “Abba, Father!”

11 But I tell you that many from east and west will come and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of the heavens;

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I need help when answering proof of WT being only religion

by DS211 in

ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.

my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.

and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.

DS211

oh and the elder responded to the holiday thing--"well no ones REALLY 100% sure where some of those things originated so thats why its a conscience matter lol i coukdnt help but smile

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I need help when answering proof of WT being only religion

by DS211 in

ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.

my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.

and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.

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Outsmartthesystem--thanks for that. Ive been on jwfacts quite a bit. I think my problem is i have trouble remembering what to say at a given time. I can spot many of these fallacies, and i absolutely 100% agree about them putting trust in men/nobles. My problem is utilizing it in my own way to be subtle...the fact that im a baptized member makes it difficult to bring up topics too much too soon. my angle right now is my wife. I have to convince her....the longer im in, the longer i take the more difficult it gets to take. i agree with everyones comments though, good stuff.

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I need help when answering proof of WT being only religion

by DS211 in

ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.

my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.

and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.

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Eveyones looking for proof. Is it possible that when given how to recognize folowers of christ the bible says. They would have love amongst themselves? Could it be that it talked about each individual having love within them and not as a group of people? Sorry at work and just thinking out loud

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I need help when answering proof of WT being only religion

by DS211 in

ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.

my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.

and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.

DS211

Well put frazzled. My thing is there is love in the org.....however duty to the GB takes precedent and somehow overthrows the buggest commandment Christ gave, to love all.

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I need help when answering proof of WT being only religion

by DS211 in

ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.

my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.

and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.

DS211

Ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort. My friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit Bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda. And he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the Bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc. so im having trouble responding with a good answer to this. When they stack all these things on top of one another it makes it tough to answer.

So...

what would you say?

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A House Divided Against Itself Falls-Luke 11:17

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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that text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.

second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.

you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.

DS211

You ever notice how all asleep witnesses divert the question when seriously challenged? Theyll take one instance, like someone who claimed a wrong number of dead jws from no blood and they standardize it. Great job SFTW well done proving our point.

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Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit

by raymond frantz in

never become enraged against jehovah.

(watchtower study 7-13 october).

paragraph 4.

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As i brought out in a thread i started, this article apparently encouraged my wife to look back at when i was influenced by apostate material and how because of that it had a direct negative effect. I qustioned service, the FDS/gb, etc etc. and her , no doubt like many others, were reminded to do more for the org.