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  Creationism creeps into UK Schools

  by Clam in

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  creationism creeps into uk schools.

  newscientist.com news service 2nd december 2006 .

  in the beginning there was the discovery institute in seattle, washington, the religious think tank that has backed the us "intelligent design" movement.

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  Abaddon

  Ah, the antics of the KrazyKristianKritters... but given the pretty universal lack of interest in religion in the UK (especially when compared to the USA) Creationism per se doesn't stand a chance. The silver ring thing came to the UK and was generally the subject of ridicule.

  ID, due to it's massive intellectual dishonesty, is more of a threat... it's sort of "NEW Creationism, now with LESS god!", and to those without a good background in the sciences (or experience in critical thinking) can be very decptive.
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  Was this really a smart choice of words?

  by sammielee24 in

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  i was watching pres bush in a speech telling the world that he is 'compelled' and 'driven by a higher power'.

  that god wants him to give people around the world freedom.

  that 'this crusade', the usa is on.............well...that was part of it and i sat there thinking.

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  Abaddon

  Hehe... Bush is the only President who has dropped bombs that are smarter than he is...
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  Celine Dion sings kingdom melodies????

  by unique1 in

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  i just received an email that read:.

  kingdom melody n. 54 sang by celine dion and george benson.

  follow together with your sing book... it's beautiful!!!!.

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  Abaddon

  The woman's voice is similar to the Canadian Goose but the Canadian Goose's first language is French; the woman singing has far better English than Celine. As to the guy, dunno, care less. A JW singing KingDUM Melodies (T- t-t-t-t-t-that's all folks!) is not news, even if he was once sort-of famous.
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  Humanity is being conned.

  by chaiyah in

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  be wary.

  to summarize, the illuminati are manipulating technology, language, ritualistic activity, subliminal awareness, fear, lust, human vulnerabilities, and conflicts.

  these manipulations are external deceptions, which help cover up their trauma-based mind control.

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  Abaddon

  Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-doodly-oop!

  I have some fragments of the true cross here if anyone is interested...

  *in the background a noise not dissimilar to that of an electric pencil shrapner can be heard*
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  Takes a long time to cure homosexuality

  by Norm in

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  apparently the process of degaying pastor ted haggard will be a long one.. takes up to 5 years according to the ungaying pro.. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/23/dobson-haggard-cure-gay/.

  poor haggard, wonder what he will do about his sexuality during those 5 years?.

  norm.

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  Abaddon

  Alpheta

  Nice to see you class someone in total psychological melt-down due to being forced to live a lie or lose everything in the same class as a guy who jumps into bed with another woman for fun. Sweet. Seems your human understanding is on a par with those you call Xtian hypocrites. As no one has defended his actions I think you'll find you can have this argument with yourself.
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  How do you explain Altruism?

  by nicolaou in

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  2. beliefs

  altruism describes an unselfish attention to the needs of others and is central to the main religions: jesus told his followers to; "love your neighbour as yourself, mohammed said none of you truly believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself and buddhism advocates seeking for others the happiness one desires for oneself.. .

  throughout history the debate has been whether this benevolence towards others is part of our make-up and natural inclination or a virtue we must impose on ourselves through effort, religious or otherwise.

  then of course came darwin with his ideas about competition and natural selection the origin of species described a world where every organism struggles for it's own supremacy.. .

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  Abaddon

  True altruism is only possible in very limited circumstances; a person walking through a part of town he doesn't know throwing themselves in front of a car to push a child they do not know and are not related to to safety and then being struck by the car and instantly killed, all in such a short period of time it is a reflex and no real concious thought about it takes place is arguably altruistic.

  Maybe this guy didn't have time to feel good about saving his friends, maybe he did; either way he's a hero;

  http://iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/13/america/NA_GEN_US_Iraq_Navy_SEAL_Killed.php

  (So much for someone throwing themselves on a grenade to save their comrades never happening)

  There is no 'pay-off' in terms of gene transferance as there is (for example) in social insects dying to protect another insects offspring.

  However, as we are thinking creatures, most actions are non-altruistic as we get the benefit of feeling good about doing what we perceive as good. That is enough to make it non-altrusitic.

  WHY we perceive such actions as good even if they are disadvantagous to ourselves is another question. My own thoughts are that comunities where people had these characteristics (even if only by means of an extended phenotype, i.e. a culturally transmitted way of acting) faired better than those where it was 'every man for themselves', as the 'penalty' for altruism was normally offset by the benefits, in in 'every man for themselves' societies there were no such beenfits.

  Examples exist elsewhere in nature; Wolves and Cape Hunting Dogs feed nursing mothers and young they are not related too, the sick too. As already noted, Vampire bats who fail to feed for three days die; they remember the bats who feed them when they are in need and feed them in turn.
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  Takes a long time to cure homosexuality

  by Norm in

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  apparently the process of degaying pastor ted haggard will be a long one.. takes up to 5 years according to the ungaying pro.. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/23/dobson-haggard-cure-gay/.

  poor haggard, wonder what he will do about his sexuality during those 5 years?.

  norm.

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  Abaddon

  Come now, we 'know' that it 'can't' be genetic. All them right-wing religious types say so so it MUST be true

  He obviously didn't CHOOSE to be like that.

  Therefore he CAUGHT homosexuality off someone or something. Maybe he sat next to someone who is a secret gay? Maybe they didn't even know themselves, they're just a 'carrier'...

  Alternately he maybe watched one too many episodes of Will and Grace. All those gay vibes coming through the screen...

  I think they should study his TV viewing habits, and then subject everyone he has met in the last decade to a test; show them 12 different shades of brown and ask them to name them; the ONLY people who can do that are gay, hell, I thought 'taupe' was a kind of rope...

  That way the root of the infection, be it unwise viewing habits or sitting next to a gay, can be stamped out and the Cwistian Congwegation kept clean...

  Poor poor bastard. First he lives a lie. Then he gets brainwashed. I just hope he doesn't take his life. I actually wish he would come out and let the world see the 'love' his Christian buddies show him...
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  PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

  by Dark_Princess in

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  well in the bible it says said by jesus christ himself... that "the true religion will be the relgion everyone despises and hates.".

  is this not the relgion of jehovahs witnesses?..

  look in the bible itself it says in john 15:18-19. jesus says, "if the world hates you, you know it has hated me before it has hated you.

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  Abaddon

  Hi Dark Princess

  Wicca one week apologism the next?

  Well In The Bible It Says said by Jesus Christ Himself...

  First of all, what makes you think that just because it says so means it happened? Why do you think the Bible is accurate or reliable? Because you've been told it is or because you can tell me facts which prove it is accurate and reliable? If someone wanted to give something they wrote a air of authority obviously they could CLAIM it was inspired of god. But surely examining WHAT they say is a better way of determining whether they are right or wrong?

  That "The True Religion will be the relgion EVERYONE despises and hates."

  Is This not the relgion of Jehovahs Witnesses?.

  Well, if you take into account that the vast majority of Chinese and Indians don;t even know JW's exist, and that represents over a third of the worlds population, no. I actually think Islam is far more depised and hated by many people than JWism. Think about it - the worst A JW can do is ruin your lie in on the weekend; an Islamic terorist can really spoil your day!

  INTERESTING HUH?...

  Nope.

  now...Im going to give frequently asked quesitons then true answers back given to me out of the Reasoning Book itself.

  Do you think for one minute that a religious manual (ANY religious manual by any religion) will ask questions that when answered show it is not a true religion? Who wrote the reasoning book? Why are you putting your trust in a book written by human beings? Are they inspired by god? How do you know this?

  Yea, I know im only 17 years old how can i know all this stuff..I reald the bible. i read everything. I do research on every religion you can think of to see which one best fits me, which one im most comfortable with. But, I have come to realize that i shouldnt be doing research for the true religion for these purposes..I should be looking for the one that Is going to maintain a healthy spirit for me, and will keep me alive and let me have an everrlasting life, if i follow the right worship.

  Holy moley... you are regurgitatiing what you've been taught, just like a Moonie or a Scientologist will regurgitate what they have been taught. They will tell you why they think they are the right religion, and cite evidence they think proves it.

  Why are they wrong and you right? WHy are any of the three examples right?

  And what makes you swing from a self-described agnostic interested in Wicca to someone who is trying desperately to convince us (or is it yourself you're trying to convince) in a week or two?

  Had a chat with someone at the hall or at home? It really sounds like someone has tried to scare you or convince you using very bad contradictory arguments that JW's have the truth.

  THINK about it; if someone says "I know I am right because people tell me I am wrong" do you take the fact people say he's wrong as proof he's right?

  Or do you look for PROOF (which your post was totally absent of) that shows what they say is true?
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  1:09am and the frickin' meeting tomorrow!

  by 5thGeneration in

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  just want to chill out.

  sleep in.

  get up at 11 and make some spam 'n eggs.

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  Abaddon

  I misread Mary's comment at first glance... I thought she was suggesting you 'flip your wife over' on Sunday morning. I thought it was a little racey... but a great way of errr... distracting her until it's too late to bother going...

  Sorry for your trouble though. Unfortunately change will only come about by you making it come about; no one else in your family will do it. Good luck.
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  Caption Time Again - Hobbies are a Waste of Time

  by jgnat in

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  breaking in my new scanner here.

  this is another image that captured my eye, an august 2004 wt.

  the caption reads: "some have eliminated certain hobbies and nonessential personal projects" can you come up with a better one?

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  Abaddon

  Anthrax: the gift that keeps on giving.