Lois, I see that in my family. My parents were told to never grow old. They seen their members to die off, one by one. I know women who were in their prime to get married and have children in the 1970's to age alone, childless, forgotten. I do not talk about one or two cases, but about dozen of them in my old KH who waisted their lives and abilities for false promises. They were nice and they did not deserved that. The leadership in WT will try everything to get away from 1914 debacle, but the best way is to rid off contemporary witnesses of it. This can be only achieved by natural, biological way. If they wait enough for 20 years most of them will be gone. Younger people that came after 1995 during switch to overlapping generations will not know the past and will most likely not care what WT used to say decades ago. New
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OMG the Watchtower IS toast!
by kneehighmiah inthe waters are drying up!
a congregation of 110+ publishers will be contributing only $200 a month to the society in the new kingdom hall construction arrangement.
that's less than $2 a publisher!
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OMG the Watchtower IS toast!
by kneehighmiah inthe waters are drying up!
a congregation of 110+ publishers will be contributing only $200 a month to the society in the new kingdom hall construction arrangement.
that's less than $2 a publisher!
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kaik
Magnum, you are correct on the observation of the JW intellectual abilities. I have observed that JWs do not even know anymore common biblical verses and stories. They can recite WT publications, but cannot read bible on their own anymore. Additionally many in the leadership are half way in the grave, born in the 1920's, senile, and clueless with world that is around. They still think and work on established 1950's principles that do not have anymore appeal. In my native country the same people I had as elders and CO are still there. They were arelady middle aged men in the 1970's and 1980's, and they are still around! They seem immortal.
I do not expect reformation within JW ranks. These debates were in secret in the 1990's when the generation nonsense was changed. German Refomation happened in span of 20 years (1517-1539) and that was 500 years ago. Today's JW membership is impotent reforming their own leadership producing while failure after another.
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OMG the Watchtower IS toast!
by kneehighmiah inthe waters are drying up!
a congregation of 110+ publishers will be contributing only $200 a month to the society in the new kingdom hall construction arrangement.
that's less than $2 a publisher!
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kaik
To kneehighmiah, maybe WT is waiting for the older JW generation to die off. Remember these are people who came into the cult decades ago with belief that end was imminent and Armageddon is just behind the corner. Most of these people had parents and grandparents born before 1914 and they witnessed this generation to pass away. With 1914 debacle moving into distant memory, WT can in several years come up with a new false prophecy of the upcoming Armageddon and younger people can be drawn in. There are millions of people that go through personal crisis every day; the prospect of someone to solve all their problem in one strike like JW claim is enticing enough. What WT published 25-50-100 years ago? They will not care.
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OMG the Watchtower IS toast!
by kneehighmiah inthe waters are drying up!
a congregation of 110+ publishers will be contributing only $200 a month to the society in the new kingdom hall construction arrangement.
that's less than $2 a publisher!
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kaik
My mom told me last month that she contributes from her small pension equivallent of $5 per month. Someone in her KH complained to her that she does not contribute enough and is spiritually weak. Yeah but they do not care that she put money for years to fund our first local KH...
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The do not call list
by LisaRose ini have posted before about my experience trying to get on the "do not call" list.
despite repeated requests, a phone call to the hall and mailing a letter, and then giving a copy to a jw, they just keep coming by.
i was going to put up a no soliciting sign, then i can call the police on them, but my husband doesn't want me to do it.. so, i decided if they come back i would have some fun.
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Will statue of gargoyle ward off JW from stepping into the property?
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The Rants of a Dumbass Elder Still Serving
by TTATTelder inok in the effort of full disclosure, i have had a couple of drinks and recently experienced a circuit assembly and a bad experience with a co.. i don't know where to effing begin.
first of all the circuit assembly was a joke.
half the assembly was about pioneering and selling your soul to be a no-pay salesman for the borg.
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It did not changed in years. I remember these talks 20 years ago. Yeah, and I wondered why so many JWs got wasted after assemblies....
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Anyone recall a time when your congregation came to the aid of a Brother or sister in need??
by jam ini'm not talking about a individual, but a congregation as a whole.. i'm talking about a brother or sister that really hit hard times.. have there ever been an occasion where the brothers (elders).
decided to dip into the kh funds and help one in need????.
example, brother loose his job, get evicted, family of four or.
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I remember in 1990 were were doing food bank for Romania. We were asked to create a food basket and put selected items there (flour, sugar, condensed milk, oil, etc.). I am sure some sister slipped there a bag of candy or chocolate. This was the ONLY time when we were asked to provide charity. When floods in 1997 and 2002 devastated Czech Republic, the JW got nothing, or I have not heard of any charitable work. As per KH to help a specific individual? We had active elder and publisher and became homeless (his family kicked him out and he shun them after they break with JW) so he came to KH with help where to live. They were able to find some place to live. But I do not think JW in my KH ever received any kind of help.
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They are more focussed on the EVENT or ACTIVITY, rather than the substance of the information presented
by stuckinarut2 inhave you noticed how the org, and individuals are more concerned about the actual event such as the international conventions, rather than the content of the program?.
i often shake my figurative head (ok, literal one too!
), as i see the all the hype being generated by the act of attending, and think that most are not actually interested in the stuff that will be presented, but are more concerned about simply being there or getting there..... and, they are more focussed on the activity of a campaign, such as a tract work, or invitation hand out, rather than the actual content of the material.. .
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I was in Praha Strahov 1991, which is the largest statium in Europe where more than 100,000 people were present. Believe or not, I felt strong sense of spirituality there and robust ethusiasm. For the first time in 40 Czechoslovak JWs were legal and could gather in mass. It was amazing. Just the feeling of it that we existed behind the Iron Curtian. However, I do not remember anything from the program, it was also not discussed before or after. The place was brutally hot and I could not stay sit as my lower body was cramping. Elders were constantly chekcing what we do, why we do not clap as much lauder as did Polish sector, and why JW took their jackets off. I was told to leave if I did not put my tie on. I Was equestioned why I brought English guys into our sector and what we were debating. And gossips and rolling eyes on some of the talks. After that were did not debate anyting from the program, at least what I am not aware.
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New Light: I hear all the time as the Armageddon gets closer the light get's brighter
by goingthruthemotions innew light: i hear all the time as the armageddon gets closer the light get's brighter.
where in the bible is this supported.
all i could fined is in.
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I am alergic on this phase and no amount of benadryl would fix that. My sibling who isloyal to the publishing house use this phase all the time when confronted with constantly changing and evolving doctrine. JWs do not care what is written in Bible, nor what WT used to publish 25-35-75 years ago, but they must accept momentary explanation given by the Borg.
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The City of Nazareth, and interesting find.
by Crazyguy ini was watching a video on youtube about chistianity and its founding and it came to my attention that the city of nazareth did not even excist when jesus was said to be alive.
it was'nt really anything accept a cemetary until about 200 ad.
so just like the city of goshen were the israelites were said to be from when they left egypt during the exodus, looks like another major flaw in the bible..
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BackseatDevil. Jesus supposed to live in the 1st century where both Egypt and Judea were part of the Roman Empire. Citizens of the empire could and did traveled all over the Roman world which would include Judea and Egypt. We do not know where Jeuss in Egypt ended. Alexandria had huge Jewish population and was probably the largest Jewish city in the Ancient world at that time. Jews and Christians from 100Ad onward regularly traveled to Levant. I do not see how would Egyptians - who were not more independent country- oppose and kill some refugee from Judea.