Posts by TTATTelder

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MTS & Gilead: Can we talk about how much of a FAILURE these 2 schools were/are?

by Black Man in

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friends

i know quite a few from both of these schools who basically crashed and burned once they got into their assignments.

graduates of these schools would be thrown into foreign territorities or remote areas without a good visible means of support and would get emotionally, mentally, financially burned out.

post your experiences or of those you know that went to these pitiful excuses for educational institutions..

TTATTelder

What always amazed me was how much respect and adoration was suddenly given to a brother that went to MTS.

I mean a misfit brother could turn into a spiritual superhero after just a few weeks of this course.

I don't remember how long the course was around here, but it was less than 90 days.

You would think they went off to JW college for 6 or 8 years and received some kind of degree in JW Theology/Administration.

There is a brother around here that went to MTS like 10+ years ago. It still is touted on his resume like its a PHD.

That's how uneducated the dubs are. A 90 day course is called a "school" and is the equivalent of a PHD in their world!

Hilarious !!

-TE

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JW.ORG ABOUT TO WIN THE LOTTERY!

by The Searcher in

after the reading out of the letter about the "new donation arrangement" this week, there is going to be a flood of money pouring into the org's coffers!.

not only from the bank accounts of the sheep, but soon after from the bulk of money in kingdom hall accounts worldwide!.

question: has anyone calculated how much cash could be grabbed from the 113,823 congregations on earth?.

TTATTelder

Yeah our hall has about $10,000 total. Im sure there are some with 6 figures in the bank.

I think the number 5000 is a good estimate.

-TE

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I Plan To Attend A Meeting and I Have a Question

by Space Madness in

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friends

besides the bible, songbook, kingdom ministry, and draw close to jehovah book, are there any other books i need in order to attend the tuesday/wensday/thursday night meeting.

do they still use a book for the theocratic ministry school and is it the same one from 7+ years ago?.

TTATTelder

It's the same one. You don't really need it though.

Look at the service meeting schedule you may need a yearbook or something for a part if you want to follow along.

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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

by TTATTelder in

the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

TTATTelder

The re-allocation of real estate and printing is not inconsequential.

Canada is printing for the US, which justifies the US sending "payment" for the mags. A legal way to launder money out of the US corps. that face liability issues. There are many legal ways for corps. to protect assets under numerous entities, esp. when they are multi-national. - berrygerry

I suppose interest free loans would still be transacted and therefore "locked" into the US assets of the Corporation. By absolving all loans and just receiving "donations" the Corporation no longer runs a US quasi-business component within it and all the new cash can be freely moved anywhere on the planet without ledger accounts pinning it to US operations.

I imagine this would eliminate many finacial "books" that the could be ordered by the supreme court to be seized or frozen - wallsofjericho

Strong Points....probably closer to the truth than we will ever know.

-TE

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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

by TTATTelder in

the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

TTATTelder

Stuckinarut - This is very real. It will happen in all US Congs in the coming weeks that have a paid-for hall.

The congs that have a note already to the branch will be expected to send an amount that is above their current payment but will prob be decided by the elders.

This slip thing is for congs with paid-for halls to come up with an amount they will commit to sending each month to the branch.

They are creating a guilt induced obligation that serves as a predetermined monthly revenue stream to the branch.

We are passing the slips out this week in our hall. All family heads will be expected to write down a number they are willing to commit to giving each month to the branch for Kingdom Hall construction/renovation/maintenance.

I know....it's nuts...

-TE

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What if you were a member of the GB and you woke up

by enigma1863 in

what if you were a member of the gb and you woke up and realized it's all bs.

what would you do?

i would try to change the org from within..

TTATTelder

In answer to the OP.....you might wake up, have a stroke, and then not wake up...

But seriously, lets not fool ourselves here. They only need a 2/3 vote to change doctrine. That's all you need to know.

That means right now there are members of the GB that are technically apostates. It's a sham.

Ocean1111 is right on the money. It will be fun to watch the ship sink.

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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

by TTATTelder in

the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

TTATTelder

Ocean1111 - You make a good point.

Many on this forum have speculated that the pedophilia lawsuits are mounting and will eventually topple the org.

It does seem as if the org lawyers have told them its time to liquidate and get the money as far out of reach as possible.

It would also explain the sudden desire to milk the cow with this new pledge/tithe thing. It's like they are getting all they can as fast as they can.

Something is on the horizon - and it ain't Armegeddon.

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help from the savants regarding the gentile times

by never a jw in

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i find it interesting that the wt is boasting about the 100 year anniversary of the kingdom in 2014, but i have never seen an explanation on how they calculate it.

i know how to get to 1914 using the bible (ezekiel, revelation, daniel, jeremiah).

in fact, i know all the messy stuff behind it, such as 606 bce, 537 bce, mishandling of no-zero year in the calendar, 536 bce instead of 539 bce, etc.. what i am wondering is when was the last time the wt wrote an article in the wt magazine to explain in the weekly meeting how to calculate 1914. if this year is so important, one would expect an explanation in a regular basis, but i have not seen it yet.

TTATTelder

I agree. I guess it's too messy for them to deal with anymore.

It's a dumbed down version of the religion today. The meetings are like a broken record.

-TE

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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

by TTATTelder in

the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

TTATTelder

sparrowdown .... I agree totally.

I think a lot of their wealth has come from guilt-tripped last will and testaments also.

This new arrangement is trying to pull more out of the "regular folks" which it will.

DJS ...hilarious! laughed out loud on that one

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We are seeing JW history in the making

by suavojr in

with all the current changes and downsizing, the 1914 "anchor date" appears to be drifting out to sea.

yes, i know the gb is putting all of their chips on 1914 but if you stop and think about it for a moment.. we are seeing jw history in the making for the next jw generation of 2114.. first they teach a date as significant.second, when it becomes obsolete, they come up with a convoluted explanation of how it really was significant, just not in the way "some believers" once taught.third, it becomes a historical footnote, as in: "bible students at one time thought... but now we see... evidently... .

the next generation of jws (100 years from today) will be talking about 2014 as the year of great expectation, and how close the end is in 2114. yes, when jesus spoke about this generation evidently he was talking in a symbolic way, and he was truly referring to the generation class.. .

TTATTelder

Yeah it will go the way of the Bible Students - fade to obscurity.

They will pump up numbers to keep breathing life into the "growth" claims as long as possible, but eventually the tricks won't hide the facts.

The apathy is already present and being covered up with rampant anti-depressant/anti-anxiety meds. (at least in the States)

That is probably why they are looking to cash $$$ in so much lately - to milk the cow before it's gone.

I wonder though if there will be a spinoff again like before?

The "reformed" JW's.