hello, i have been offline for quite some time and i know this might have been discussed a great deal, but its burning me, hence i am raising this issue again.
this is also to help the newbies and lurkers.
i thought the 1914 generation would have long passed by at this point and time, and believe they have come up with a new spin to the whole generation issue.
The modern jdub excuse goes something like this:
"Well we don't know what Jehovah's timetable is, but we must be soooooooo close now!"
"You know the last days in Noah's time lasted 120 years..."
"We just have to wait on Jehovah...but this old system just can't last much longer!"
etc etc
-TE
it seems that everyone is taking for granted that the sociaty has made 1 billion in profit.
could anyone tell me why it would not be a posibility that the society had a large number of mortgages attached to these properties?
wouldn't that explain the latest monney grab from the congregations?.
insidethekh:
can you do the math?
they paid peanuts compared with what they get now for the real estate in Brooklyn. They bought lots of it when the market was bad and a lot of those properties were in very bad shape,.. so very cheap.
They sold/sell it when the market is way up and the buildings are in excellent condition.
That math has nothing to do with the possibility of outstanding loans mentioned in the OP.
I don't know if that info can be found in public records. It probably can.
The public info about this new luxury property in Wales says no mortgage.
I personally suspect that the borg is flush with cash, is downsizing, putting away as many millions as possible for the future support of themselves, and putting that money in multiple corp's spread out internationally and as out-of-reach as possible from lawsuits.
It seems that their financial "fears" are dominating the decision making. Are these fears justified? - only time will tell.
-TE
we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .
hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.
lol!!!
You can still right-click and select "open image in new tab"
at least with the chrome browser that is.
-TE
we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .
hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.
lol!!!
Singing "kingdom songs" while camping?
Uhhhh....hell no.
First of all, I hate to tell them, but I have never seen JW's camp without alcohol present.
Actually, now that I think about it, some of the jdub camping scenes I have been a part of are the closest thing to a normal religous experience that can be had in the borg.
Big witness groups have gone camping before and had casual-dressed "sunday meetings" around the campfire. They were sometimes conducted by non-servants with elders in the audience. Comments were more open and honest. It was almost like seeing what a meeting could be like if "big brother" wasn't looking over your shoulder.
The picture above is cornball crap.
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it's happened before.
how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.
I think people will wake up after this 2014 year has come and gone.
It will be easier to see in hindsight, IMO, that this year was all a glorious distraction.
The borg will not be able to keep up this level of activity. People will feel the obvious lull and have time to think.
You could see the numbers drop in 2015 for the first time in many years.
It may continue to slowly drop going forward. I personally hope to see this.
-TE
.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
Tizzy,
I think they are saying:
Don't have a local needs part telling the dubs - "We were short last month so pony up the difference."
But rather, remind them of their commitment going forward.
The letter is attempting to ramp up financial pressure but still appear balanced.
-TE
.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
I am a currently serving elder - ( let the hissing begin)
I am in a very slow fade. Über dub wifey and family and friends for miles. Witness employer etc.
This is what I chose to do as an informed TTATT knowing elder:
I turned in no slip/pledge.
I voted on the body for sending 0 dollars as the one time donation.
I voted for the lowest monthly amount that was on the table.
Additionally I am dropping seeds to help others slowly wake up - 4 people just today.
I have no fear on the body which is interesting especially considering how others are so sucked in to the politics and brown nosing. (They don't know how to take me)
I just recently got in the face of a "lording it over" brother and gave him harsh "counsel" in front of the body.
If I have to be here for awhile, might as well have some fun along the way and maybe accomplish some good.
-TE
wow.
you read about it here.
but, it still doesn't prepare you.. our hall passed a resolution to give about 15,000 to the wt.
This organization employs the "barefoot and pregnant" tactic.
If you want to abusively control a woman - you can keep her barefoot and pregnant and then she cant leave you because she's so undesirable.
If they keep the members poor and uneducated, nobody else will want them.
It's pretty freakin' sick.
-TE
may 12, 2014. to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: adjusted process to accelerate kingdom hall construction.
dear brothers:.
It's a huge money grab, that's for sure.
There is a local congregation with well over $100,000 in their account from selling their hall and saving for a new one.
Bye Bye bank account. LOL
-TE
do they actually believe that if they tell you that you are "missed", that you will desire to return to the sheepfold?
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Seriously? That was a thing? - Vidiot
The theme was actually:
"Remember those that are taking the lead among you and imitate their faith"
It was solely based on imitating the Governing Body. Seriously.
-TE
