That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations.
And Jehovah went and made an alliance with this disgusting thing ?
https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php
it is a challenge next sunday for them .
due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).
this article makes a grand claim in par 2.
That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations.
And Jehovah went and made an alliance with this disgusting thing ?
https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php
system of things comes to mind.
what does that mean to anyone not a jw?.
how long have you been in the truth?
Publisher - A perfect misnomer
does someone have a list of the scriptures the jw's use to justify shunning and disfellowshipping?
i know there are only a few..
Add "Who Questions the Watchtower" to that.
there have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.
yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.
the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?
All days of the week and months are pagan, named after ancient Gods.
Celebrating
wedding anniversaries are pagan. Baby shower celebration is pagan. Many
restaurants offer a prayer before starting their business every day. Another
Pagan thing. And JWs dont have a problem supporting these
Jws should work on their so called "Worldy holidays" because they are Pagan. Have you ever seen a JW go to his work on a pagan Holiday ?
Allowing a JW to die by refusing blood is a good thing
But making a person feel good on his birthday is evil and Pagan. WHAT A CULT
we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.
but recently i got to thinking about it.
if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?
@ JoenB75
EverApostate, Lazarus was not transformed into immortality in John 11 ☺️
Is there sometihing like mortal resurrection and immortal resurrection in the Bible. Anxious to know that
we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.
but recently i got to thinking about it.
if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?
It’s absurd to the core, to believe in resurrection. Just take one Example:
When Lazarus was resurrected, why did he die again? He should be alive now. Because the Bible says, the wages of sin is death and whoever dies is cleared of their sins.
If Lazarus is still around, that would be an irrefutable proof that the Bible is true.
The Biblical beleif of resurreuction is just as good as the Egyptian belief of an afterlife.
In ancient tiimes, the Egyptians spent a lot of time, Energy and money to build pyramid tombs to support afterlife
JWs and christians do the same now
romans 13 ,1-7 contrast with 2 cor.4 : 3-6 ,on the one hand the faithful are to be obedient to the superior authorities ,worldly government ,law enforcement ,etc, as its gods arrangement and to go against it is to go against god ?.
then 2 cor .4 : 3-6 states that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one satan the devil and if you are obedient to that you are supporting satan`s system of things and going against gods arrangement ?.
what sort of mental gymnastics do you need to acquire to accept both of these scriptures and keep your sanity ?.
One cannot be a christian without practicing Mental Gymnastics
for the first time in my life, i have to admit that the world is rapidly deteriorating.
first i saw a decline in democracy worldwide.
elections were a tough battle every time, unfair too.
Even the Quran says about Qayamat ka Din. Means, the last days would be torublesome. Is this a warning that everyone should become Muslims to be saved ?
i was a jehovah's witnesses for 15 years (1983-1998) in pietermaritzburg and durban, south africa.
i was baptised in 1985; appointed a ministerial servant in 1987 (aged 21); refused military service on religious grounds in 1989 (served a three year community service sentence) and was appointed an elder in 1993 (aged 26).
i wrote to the governing body in brooklyn four times between 1992-97, respectfully questioning the nonsense they were publishing about science and evolution (you can see all my correspondence and their hilarious replies here: http://bit.ly/jw-md-letters ).
@Kosonen
Unfortunately at that time because of Jehovah God's kindness and generosity and liberalism
Jehovahs Kindness ?? What about his genocides all throughout the old testament
In addition God allowed angels to go against His will and come down to earth and live here.
Why. TO create more trouble for humans ?
i was a jehovah's witnesses for 15 years (1983-1998) in pietermaritzburg and durban, south africa.
i was baptised in 1985; appointed a ministerial servant in 1987 (aged 21); refused military service on religious grounds in 1989 (served a three year community service sentence) and was appointed an elder in 1993 (aged 26).
i wrote to the governing body in brooklyn four times between 1992-97, respectfully questioning the nonsense they were publishing about science and evolution (you can see all my correspondence and their hilarious replies here: http://bit.ly/jw-md-letters ).
@Kosonen
You say that you are a thinking person. What convinces you that the Noah flood occurred?
Do you believe that Noah got all the species of the world into an ark ?
So, Noah and only 8 of his family were righteous in the whole world ?
Is a global flood an efficient method to wipe out the Evil people of the earth? Its like flooding the house to kill the bugs.
Why doesn’t the Scientific community accept that a flood occurred some 4000 Years ago. But they do admit that an ice age happened some 40,000 years ago.
Sorry SuperMarioDiMaggio , your topic got diverted. But I am just curious why people who left a cult still believe in a most improbable story