to say this whole creation thing has been or will be a success at the end is absurd.
not only did one third of the angels jump ship to satans side.
but adam and eve screwed up so quickly.
ColdSteel: You have no idea of what lay behind the war in heaven, as it's called.
Why should there be a war in heaven, as the Bible says ? War is possible only with materialistic and tangible living things. God and his angelic myriads are spirit creatures and how do you think a war is practical in this respect. Cant god inactivate the rebelling angels in a split second, stripping them off their power. (Or even faster since he is infinitely powerful)
to those on these forums who are christian and or to those who believe in the god of the old testament; how does one overcome many of the questionable actions god took or allowed to happen in the old testament?.
many if not most of us have heard of criticisms of the god of the old testament.
you can find these criticisms on many websites.. how do you explain to an honest hearted person why god acted the way they did?.
"The road to Atheism is littered with bibles, read cover to cover". Sorry to post this quote from an atheist website but this has been very true in my life. The more you read the Bible with an open mind, the more faith you lose.
just a simple " we are sorry " .
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"Adjustments in thinking" is their methodology. And it works very well.
hello every body!.
it's my thirst time here.
i'm verry glad to tell you my resignation as an elder in my local congregation.
Congratulations. BTW, my advice would be to do a lot of research on the Watchtower history and strengthen your knowledge about the cult. Else, there is a chance you may get sucked in again. I can assure that exiting the cult would give you immense joy and freedom.
i have just posted elsewhere that there is no destiny for a jw other than to be deluded or disappointed, perhaps deluded or disillusioned would be a better expression.
there is no such thing as armageddon, no such thing as everlasting life, paradise is a mirage of wish fulfillment.. a friend of mine who is nominally a jw but who does not believe a word of it, told me about the dying words of another friend's father.
this man had been a lifelong stalwart jw and reared an exemplary jw dynasty but as he died he told his super zealous son that it (the jw religion) has got it all wrong.. ok, it's a social club for the majority of witnesses and an identity for those without self worth or clear goals in life, they will swallow the inconsistencies and biblical absurdities because it is in their community interests to conform.
I would imagine how JWs would be in another 100 years. Almost all of today’s JW zealots would be long gone, having strived for nothing. Same cultist practices would prevail then, with a lot of revision and changes. Truth of today would be considered Silly and "Apostate" ish, just like how today's JWs consider the "truth" of CT Russel. But for sure, same doomsday message would be prevalent among them, since that is their driving force..
lets play a fun game?.
we all know that as witnesses, we were constantly told to read the bible, and ask ourselves what the passage we read reveals about god.. as an example, here is a wt that highlights this.. may 2016 wt study edition "benefit fully from jehovah's provisions".
8 ask questions.
When I was a JW, I tried to read the Bible with all my sincerity and it always ended up feeling bad or discouraged or depressed. Reason ? Too much of injustice, ignorance and silliness that I was unable to comprehend as true facts.
if jehovahs witnesses are using the wrong name of god "jehovah" how would that affect your worship ?.
2. if yahweh is the more correct name of god of the bible how does that affect your worship ?.
3.jehovahs witnesses put great emphasis on gods name ,sanctifying it treating it as "holy" and that jehovahs witnesses are to make it known in all the earth .
This Supposed Almighty God couldn't preserve his own name in his own book for almost 1875 years until C.T Russel would appear and then restore it. Absurd !!
i was looking around from some information on the wt's stance concerning the use of stem cells, and i came across this article on a defending jehovah's witnesses blog.. rather than informing the reader all that much about stem cells, the author diverts the conversation into a discussion of "blood fractions" (*note: the term "blood fractions" appears to be another one of those wt bloodspeak terms coined by the wt.
"blood components" or "blood products" are the terms used more frequently by the medical world.
"fractions" implies tiny amounts).
Even if Blood fractions are acceptable through this self righteous manipulation, where do they get the blood fractions from ? From some "worldly" people who donated their blood. Isn't it Unrighteous to have a policy of "NOT to donate blood" but accept components.
does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?
for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?
an intellectual understanding?
I tried so hard to have this sort of "personal relationship with Jah", after every time I heard this from the talks or any other dub. Hell, it never happened. Not surprised now, as I had realized that there is nothing such as Jehovah.
a thought occurred to me that simply because something is old does not make it valuable or worthy of sacred reverence.. the bible is held up as sacred just because it is "old" and apparently preserved.. but, that does not make sense.
if in thousands of years someone finds a notebook of my scribbles or sketches that i threw away, that doesn't elevate them to "valuable status" simply because they survived.
they were thrown away because they were worthless.. or if an archaeologist finds an ancient broken bit of pottery that was used for garbage disposal, it doesn't change its status from what it once was - a garbage bin.. i guess what i am trying to ask is, why is it that we as humans give value to writings just because they are old?.
Holy Bible. I would call it anything but Holy. A mumbo jumbo of ignorance, silliness, vengeance, arrogance, myths, contradictions, partiality, lewdness, a little of true history and a few sprinkles of good advice. Why is this cocktail considered Holy. Because the Bible says so.
