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  The Bible's Buried Secrets, new findings on how the ancient Israelites became supposedly monotheistic

  by Finkelstein in

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  i viewed this tv series recently and found the information interesting to say the least.. here is part 2 which got my attention the most.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyd0lzmile8.

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  "Jehovah ALWAYS had/used an organization". How would you reply?

  by EdenOne in

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  in a recent meeting with elders, an argument was used to the effect that jehovah has always [= throughout history] used, or operated through, an organization; therefore, the wts must be that organization today, since god must be using one.

  naturally, i know what arguments i've used to counter that argument.

  but i'm interested in hearing yours.

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  WT Study for January 6-12, 2014

  by Bobcat in

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  as a heads up for those who are present for the wt study of january 12, 2014, this thread has information and links to material that has an impact on that study article.. pages 12, 13, pp.

  9-14 is a subtitle dealing with a supposed future cry of "peace & security.

  " for a detailed analysis with comments on numerous aspects of that subject see this thread.. this post on page two of this thread has a copy of the above wt sub-title dealing with the "peace & security" prophecy as the wt understands it..

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  Am I missing something here ?

  by smiddy in

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  in ancient times , o.t.speak, god dealt with humans in a variety of ways , dreams ,visions ,prophets,and prophetesses , then apparently 2000 years ago he must have said, i`m not doing this anymore.they , my followers will just have to beleive and put faith in what has been written down up untill the 20th century of the common era.

  approximately 4000 years of human history where god has communicated with humans .

  if you beleive that .. their has been no communication between god , with any human , whether by dreams , visions , or prophets , for the past 2000 years.. and may i add, their has been no communication from jesus during these past 2000 years either, giving us enlightend /updates about his sayings /prophecys that he gave while on earth 2000 years ago.. please explain.. smiddy.

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  Smiddy, this is something that started bothering me months before I started having serious doubts about the WT. That had already been troubling to me and then the GB decides that there was not even a FDS to distribute spiritual food from the time of Jesus' death till 1919? How can that be explained?
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  Christmas Songs?

  by leaving_quietly in

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  there are certain songs sung at christmas time that have nothing whatsoever to do with christmas.

  i've been reading lyrics lately to make sure, then i make comments to my uber-jw wife, who really, really hates what i'm saying.

  for example, the song, "let it snow" has nothing to do with christmas.

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  I was actually just thinking about this myself. My family gets together every December for a Christmas "sing-a-long" party and I've been trying to figure out how I can get away with going this year since I've missed the last several. I was thinking that I can tell my husband that a lot of the songs we sing aren't even about Christmas. What's wrong with a sleigh anyway? A couple years ago I was in field service with my in laws and a little girl... We stopped at a McDonalds afterwards and got a happy meal for the little girl. The happy meal came with a Hello Kitty figurine on a sleigh and my MIL wasn't sure if she should let the girl have the toy because of the sleigh, which I thought was ridiculous. What does a sleigh have to do with Christmas? Is there something I'm missing?

  I was was also thinking about how even though a lot of Chrisrmas songs are about the birth of Jesus, what's wrong with that? Even if Jesus wasn't born in December what's wrong with singing about his birth? Didn't the angels rejoice when Jesus was born? Not sure if these arguments will work with my husband, but it's the best I can come up with so far.
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  Hello, its good to be back, seriously!

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  for the last year or so, the opening lyrics to gloria estefan's "always tomorrow" have been howling at me.. i've been alone inside myself, far too long.

  never really wanted it that way, but i let it happen..... .

  (btw, the message in that song is great for former jw's, if you want to think about the lyrics that way....).

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  Hi ATJ, I'm glad that you're learning to heal. I really appreciated your advice on my post the other day. Glad you have made the decision to come back!
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  Does the WTS's past matter?

  by M.J. in

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  i know, i'd jump into this topic by saying, "heck yeah.

  they're the ones saying they've been appointed by god based on what they were doing back around 1914-1919.

  " but i'm trying to help someone out who has reached a roadblock with his wife.

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  When did Jesus start ruling as king?

  by DS211 in

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  cindy: o.k.

  cindy, now read the next two verses 25 and 26.. cindy: for he must rule as king until [god] has put all enemies under his feet.

  cindy: i never saw that before!.

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  If you want to show a JW some of the older publications from a non-apostate and 'safe' website..

  by The Quiet One in

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  "it is appreciated that these documents do not reflect the current understanding of the bible enjoyed by jehovah's witnesses, and for up-to-date information the reader is encouraged to visit the official site of the watchtower bible and tract society.".

  http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/.

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  Jesus Christ is King even before 1914 so Why the Need to...

  by ProfCNJ in

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  good morning folks!

  i have believed in the 1914 jw core teaching for more than 20 years.

  but now, after seeing much about this date, i find it uncomfortable and odd to believe it unquestionably, much less defend it against opposing thoughts.

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  I appreciate this thread. The 1914 doctrine has been weighing heavily on me lately in light of the recent changes the WT has made. I'm trying to sort through all of my thoughts on this.

  Thanks to those of you that compiled a list of Scriptures indicating that Jesus was king before 1914, and in reference to Jesus' parousia. It has been very helpful to me.