i'm sure this must of happened at least once in 125 years, but what if .......... you are working for brother a in his cleaning business (that's seems to be all jw's do) or any other business, and you get df'd lets say for immoral conduct or apostacy, would you be fired ???
and what legal course would you have ???
the freedom of rights must include discrimination against/for religion, just because someone leaves a religion does that give the right to the owner of the business to fire a person.. any thoughts ????????.
I used to work for an employment law attorney. I do know that the laws about discrimination, etc. apply ONLY to companies with 50 or more people. At least in Texas. We are an 'at-will' employment state. If you are fired, you are fired. It is VERY difficult to bring a case against your employer here, even if you are discriminated against.
I think you would have to check on your individual state's laws...
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i was watching one of the sports chanels the other day and saw an hour long story on mr. tyson.
there were several segments showing different prefight interviews.
his behavior at these gatherings was incorrigable.
Mike Tyson, you see, is a 'celebrity'.
In the United States of America, celebrities are free to do whatever they wish, with only a small fine and perhaps some community service to live up to. R. Kelly. OJ. Wynona. Charlie Sheen. Look at Robert Downey, Jr. for crying out loud! If that guy lwas from the inner city, he'd be in prison for 3 lifetimes! Oh, the list can go on and on.
Sad, but true.
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i started several weeks ago and all i can say is wow!
what they say is true... it is very adictive.
the natural high is amazing.
Hey, Elsewhere!
I just started myself--about 3 months ago. It IS addicting, isn't it? I love that I can go longer each time I run...I can see myself making progress.
My goal is to run a 5k race for my next birthday. I'll be 30 and I think that would be an awesome way to celebrate...
I get shin splints, too. I think stretching is a must...also, I'll take 1 Advil before I go, and that usually eliminates the problem. I know I have a serious over-pronation problem (i.e., I run on the ball of my foot), and I am pretty sure that is the root of the problem. I was thinking of getting those custom shoe inserts, but they are expensive. For now, I just got a good pair of shoes, and it seems to help some.
Congratulations on getting up and going! I admire ANYONE who runs--because it is so physically and psycologically challenging--especially in the beginning!
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i'm having a "minimus moment" - .
i've got meat loaf's new cd "couldn't have said it better" playing, and the question occured to me - i'm sure all of us recall some details of their first date - anyone out there brave enough to tell us about their experience?.
(with thanks to minimus for the inspiration).
There was a bomb scare so I never got to see how the movie ended.
What movie was it?!
My first date with my husband: He asked me out, picked me up, took me to a movie (Office Space), we had coffee by the lake and talked for hours, he dropped me off and I kissed him on the cheek. In fact, it was the most chaste date I ever had, even more than from when I was in the borg! (Yes, those "brothers" PRETEND to be spiritual, but just get one in a car in a dark parking lot and see what happens).
My husband was so sweet and respectful, I immediately fell in love. I think we had sex on about the 4th or 5th date...by that time I was convinced he was a keeper.
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i'd have loved to have a gran as cool as mouthy (grace) ... surfing the net and stuff!.
what do you think?
Hey Mouthy--
I have a super cool 'gramps' who surfs the net, too. He's a computer wiz! You single?!
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just putting this out to you.. have you encountered, or noticed on occasion how what you were disfellowshipped for, also dictates who will associate with you, post-jw?
yes, i'm talking about those beloved ex-jws/df'd/da'd/apostates.. by that, i mean, if you were, let's say, disfellowshipped for scriptural/doctrinal issues, perhaps in the ex-jw world, you hold yourself or others of that ilk, in higher esteem?.
those that were disfellowshipped for smoking, heavy drinking or drug use, perhaps as previously not strong people.. those that were disfellowshipped for sexual misconduct: (file under: other) and similar to the above.. it's interesting.
The adulters are shunned even here. Few would even admit to it.
I ADMIT IT! I COMMITTED ADULTURY!!!!
I wasn't DF'd though--I just never went back so they could DF me. That was kind of a kiss off to JW's and my a$$hole ex-husband all at once...
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the "what if" thing comes to mind... no matter how much i strongly believe that they are not, what if armageddon happened tomorrow and they were correct?
would you have any sorrow for being wrong???.
i, personally would not.
Yeah, I personally feel like I am a better person that the 'god' of the JW's. I can't accept that. The God I believe in is infinitely better than I am. All powerful, all-knowing. He doesn't require people to accomplish his 'plan', He is not 'jealous' or 'angry' or any of these silly human emotions. I have a greater capacity to forgive than their god. He's a big jerk who plans on destroying the earth just because people don't want to listent to a bunch of uneducated, ineffective zealots.
If JW's are right, and Jehovah IS who they say he is...I don't want to worship Him. He's not really that great of a god.
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a few of us use our real names as our handles, but most of us use something else, such as a nickname or a variation of our real name.
iiz2cool - it was not my nickname (i really don't think i'm all that cool), but that of an old friend named mike prezelj.
i won't go into how he got the name, but it happened when we were all very high, and you had to be there to understand.
I'm married. And my last name starts with a "Q".
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for most witnesses, the ressurection hope keeps survivors going.
i knew of some jw's that were in such denial that they would want to believe that "they're just sleeping but are still alive to jehovah.
" others would bust themselves "in the work", while others would "mourn as the nations do".
Wow, Mouthy--that was quite a post...I'm sorry you've had to live through that kind of pain...
As for me, I have never had anyone close to me die. Since my parents became witnesses, they pretty much alienated us from our entire families. Both my grandmothers have died, and it had little effect on me...I simply wasn't that close to them. Sad, but true.
My parents are getting older...although I think they have a long way to go. But I am terrified of either of them dying. I'm terrified of anyone close to me dying. I am quite certain it is going to shock the hell out of me, and I don't know how I'm going to handle it when it inevitably happens.
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was bored this afternoon and surfing the t.v.
i turned on tlc and they had this show called "what not to wear".
well i used to enjoy tlc but lately they have been putting these crappy "make over" shows.
I'll tell you who watches them---THE BRITISH!
That show was on BBC before it was on TLC. Same thing with "Changing Rooms", which became TLC's "Trading Spaces".
Although, I have to admit...I kind of like Changing Rooms/Trading Spaces. It is amazing what they can do with a $1,000 budget!
Buuuut...I agree with you--WNTW is pretty rude. I mean, it isn't like the person has sought the fashion advice...they are basically ambushed by these snooty broads who treat them like they are criminals just because they aren't in style. I've seen about 2 episodes, and never watched it again...
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