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  Former Elders, a Question

  by StinkyPantz in

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  i have always been unclear as to why i was disfellowshipped.

  i had my judicial meetings because i was dating a "worldly" guy.

  i assume this because they never said i was "formally charged" with anything.

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  Yeah they told my mom it was because of my attitude; but I told them that I still wanted to "serve Jehovah" and be a JW, so how could they justify their decision?

  Unless you dumped your boyfriend, got down on all fours, wept, begged forgiveness AND said that you wanted to "serve Jehovah and be a JW" they dont need to justify their decision. You have gone against an unwritten rule and they must prevent others from following.

  Before I had my JC, I was sure I wouldnt be disfellowshipped. One eyewitness stated she saw me smoking. Then she retracted her statement and said that she didnt see me smoking, but there was a lit cigerette on the table I was sitting (along with 3 other people). I was then disfellowshipped for my attitude. When I asked "What attitude? I said all along I wasnt smoking." Their answer? "Thats exactly the attitude we're talking about"!!

  No matter how long and hard you dwell on this subject, it's a complete waste of time. The rules will always change to suit their own general feeling about you PERSONALLY. I was told that the only way I could be reinstated, was if I admitted to smoking even though by their own admission I wasnt disfellowshipped for smoking.
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  Former Elders, a Question

  by StinkyPantz in

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  i have always been unclear as to why i was disfellowshipped.

  i had my judicial meetings because i was dating a "worldly" guy.

  i assume this because they never said i was "formally charged" with anything.

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  When I re-entered they told me that because my behaviour could stumble others, and I was disfellowshipped.

  As far as these elders were concerned, you are putting your relationship with a worldly person before Jehovah. This is not the reason you have been disfellowshipped. I imagine they have used you as an example in an attempt to prevent others from following your path. To my knowledge there is no published ruling for disfellowshipping someone because of a non-sexual relationship with a non-Jehovahs witness. If you enquire to the reason you have been disfellowshipped, the elders will state that your relationship with this man was not the reason you were disfellowshipped, but it was because of your attitude. This seems to be a favourite, used when there is no biblical or even WatchTowerical reason for removing someone. It is impossible for an appeal comittee to judge facts when the reasons are based on the "attitude" of someone. In which case, they will always return in favor of the local elders.

  Check out http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm for the following quote:

  If, however, someone unrepentantly practices serious sins, such as drunkeness, stealing or adultery, he will be disfellowshipped and such an individual is avoided by former fellow-worshipers. Every effort is made to help wrongdoers. But if they are unrepentant, the congregation needs to be protected from their influence. The Bible clearly states: 'Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.' (1 Corinthians 5:13)

  Its good to see that “every effort is made to help wrongdoers”. How long did they deliberate your case? 3 minutes. Ah, the loving care of Jehovah’s earthly organization always leaves me feeling warm and fuzzy inside!

  yxl1
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  Why Women Think Differently To Men...

  by SYN in

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  so what do you guys think of this article???

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  I only get a huge blank square. Could you resubmit the post?
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  Predictions please for the England game.....

  by digderidoo in

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  england 4 liechenstein 0

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  Looks like we were all wrong. What a crappy performance! At least Rooney kept the game alive!
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  JWD Maps Europe

  by Lady Lee in

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  and one for the folks in europe.

  i know you're out there.. please post the country you are in.

  i will do my best to get you as close to where you live as possible - well in the same country.. as you can see we have a ways to go.

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  Nice idea. Put me down for London.
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  Predictions please for the England game.....

  by digderidoo in

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  england 4 liechenstein 0

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  England 2 Liechenstein 1
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  Opinions on drugs?

  by digderidoo in

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  while i was in the 'truth' i and a few of my peers were curious about the effects of certain drugs.

  as a teenager during the rave scene of the late 80's early 90's many of the 'worldly' kids were doing ecstasy, smoking weed and becoming heavily involved in the drugs scene.. when i left the 'truth', this curiosity got the better of me and i started smoking weed and eventually tried ecstasy, speed and lsd.. while all drugs can be abused (and i have abused some) i am of the opinion that the use of drugs can be a good experience, if used moderately.. i was wondering whether others have experienced drugs since leaving the truth, i am interested to find out what opinions people have on them good or bad.. i also wondered whether people feel that cannabis should be legalised.

  my opinion is that people in power shouldn't tell me what i can and can't do with my own body.

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  I've pretty much tried most drugs. My older half brother was a dealer so I always had access to pretty much anything I wanted. I found that sitting through the Sunday meeting wasnt half as bad when stoned. Going out on the service could even be quite amusing! My sister and I sat through our baptism talk "out of our heads", and giggled through the whole thing. The drug that effected me the worst was alchol.(Mood swings, aggression, tiredness...) I agree that XTC, LSD etall should never be made legal, but I smoke MJ and that should be legal. All this talk about memory loss is pretty much fact, but like anything, in moderation you shouldnt be effected too badly. Err...what was the question again?
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  Annual conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses disrupted and canceled in Russia

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.jw-media.org/region/europe/russia/english/releases/intolerance/rus_e030908.htm

  for immediate release.

  september 8, 2003

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  This is just another example of lazy persecution. If they want to stamp out JW's in their area, why not just hold a TV debate about doctrine and issues within the the org. Whenever I've seen a Dub being interviewed on TV they ALWAYS come across badly. Now that would probably cause more harm to the Dubs than preventing a convention.
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  My 12th Wedding Anniversary

  by yxl1 in

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  yesterday was our 12th wedding anniversary.

  only my mother on my side of the family is still a witness.

  i receieved cards and phonecalls from all my family, even though we've just recently had a family death and most of them are aboard to arrange the funeral.. my wife's family are all dubs, and she is very close to her family.

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  Ahhh Shucks. Thanks guys. Bought my wife Chocolates from the "Australian Chocolate company" which are her abosolute fave. Took her to a show and dinner and spent a small fortune on underwear (for her) and loads and loads of roses. I think she enjoyed the day

  Zoewrex. We've done just that. We have a few friends that are closer to us than our own family. Thanks for the random thoughts
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  Fictional Conversation at the Door

  by Farkel in

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  two dubs approach a door and one of them ever-so-quietly knocks..... .

  dub gives standard starting presentation about how screwed up everything is in the world, and about the "wonderful" promise god has made to us to fix it all.... .

  "don't you people believe that your god will kill everyone who isn't a member of your religion?

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  "Don't you people believe that your God will kill everyone who isn't a member of your religion?"

  "That isn't for us to say. Only God can judge hearts."

  "It certainly is for you to say! Doesn't your religion teach that very thing?"

  "No, it doesn't."

  Your fictional account was very acurate. How many times have we asked questions of witnesses only to have them lie? As far as these people are concerned, they're out doing Gods work and yet they still lie! I will definately use this mode of argument when I next spot them counting hours in a coffee shop.