Oh yes, awful... our 'book study overseer' (do you call it that way in English??) had to give my ex and me a phonecall every month. We always 'forgot' to report, and we always said 'oh we'll call you back in five minutes', so we had a little time to think about what we could count as 'service' etc. Most of the time we made it up just to be 'regular'... I hated those phonecalls, 'cause they made me feel so guilty and watched!
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Who remembers the time cards we filled out?
by Decided ini just thought about them a few minutes ago.
you put how many hours you spent in service and the amount of mags.
and books you placed(sold).
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Stupid English People !
by Simon inthese are apparently real complaints received from a uk tour operator.
no country has a monopoly on having stupid people!.
these are actual complaints received by thomas cook vacations from dissatisfied customers:.
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Bruja-del-Sol
Hahaha, it's amazing what people come up with to try and get their money back. But I do understand some of the complaints about Spain... it's really packed with Spanish people here... nobody told us that before we moved here! LOL
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Why I can never escape abuse... part 5 The final
by KariOtt innow onto my brother.
no suprise that he's an alcoholic like i am.
when i was 2 months old he went after me with garden sheers.
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Read your whole story and I feel so sorry for you. Just want to give you a hug and hope and wish you will find some peace and quiet in your life soon. It's about time, noone should be put through so much strain and suffering.
Here's my virtual hug for you
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NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT
by clarity in# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
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Welcome to all Newbies... I really like this forum!
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How Many Here Are On Facebook & How Often Do You Frequent The Site?
by minimus ini'm on it every couple of days and it's usually to see pics of my grandkids or to get the 411 onwhat's going on..
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Same with me as Faithfull Witness, was on FB nearly 24/7... until we had no internet for a month and I realised that I wasn't really living. So I deactivated my account. I still have an anonymous account on a fictitious name, but no friends in it... it's mainly to check out some DIY-pages every now and then for new inspiration, so I use that once a week at the most and sometime look up people I've known in the past (specially when one of my children tells me things like 'did you know brother so-and-so is gay? Look at his FB!').
But I have to be aware, 'cause the same danger lies in this forum... I keep checking if there are new topics, new postings... so I'm sort of an undisciplined addict if I'm not careful enough...
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Let's make a list of the families ruined by the Watchtower
by Faithful Witness inthe jehovah's witnesses came to our door, claiming to hold the secrets of family happiness.
they told me they had the "one true religion," and had come to save my life.
i was a bible student for quite awhile, along with my husband.
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Here another family broken by the WTS rules. I'm the only one that's DF'd, a couple of others have faded, but even the faders still think and act as JW's. And the rest of the family is way too scared to be destroyed in Armageddon, so they stay in... just in case it's all true ('cause I know 100% for certain that 80% of the family don't believe it anymore, they're just a bunch a anxious people afraid to 'miss the boat' or should I say 'ark' ).
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OK--so--hands up if your are an APOSTATE
by bigmac ini'm proud to say i'm an apsostate.. .
anyone else up front about it?.
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LOL really funny I'm not sure if I'm an Apsostate but and Apostate according to the JW's definition... definitely!
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Did you ever REALLY believe anything special happened at Cedar Point Ohio in 1922?
by Sapphy inbut the understanding is affirmed in the revelation climax book, albeit with less detail.
the events are as follows (& i'm keeping the quotes really short) :.
1st angel - "it all began during the bible students cedar point convention in september 1922. there gods people enthusiastically adopted a resolution entitled "a challenge.
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I just never understood anything in the Revelation book, so I skipped a lot of the 'book studies' when that book was studied. I always felt I was too dumb to understand such difficult biblical things... but maybe I was too smart to buy it
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What does freedom from The Watchtower look like in the life of a former JW?
by JustMeNonJDub inthoughts?.
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After I left every tuesday and thursday night I would think "aaaah so wonderful, I don't have to go to a meeting tonight". Every saturday morning I felt so free, because I didn't have to go out into field service and could stay in bed if I wanted to, and every sunday morning I was so happy that I didn't have to go to yet another meeting. Those thoughts and feelings lasted for over five years, and finally it became normal to live my life without the WTBTS.
I think these feelings lasted that long, because of the huge amount of guilt I always felt when I didn't attend the meetings or field service when I was still a JW.
Another thing that bothered me for quite a while was the fear of demons. The first nights after I left my ex-husband I heard noises and 'felt' things. I know now it was just my anxiety, 'cause I was soooo scared... I really believed demons were out there to 'get' me. I lived at a (non JW) friends house for a while and she wanted to watch the first Harry Potter movie... I managed to watch the first ten minutes or so and then couldn't handle my anxiety anymore, so I ran away to my bedroom, feeling very afraid because I thought the demons would come after me because of watching that movie! Took me some time to get over that and realise that nothing would happen to me, no demons, no Satan coming after me... it was only the lifelong programming by the WT, that when you're DF'd you're in the hands of Satan and I believed it.
Now I am totally free of those fears. I even became a witch, something I was always fascinated by (even as a child) but I thought witches were evil and bad... until I met someone very nice who told me she was a witch. I couldn't believe it... she was just lovely! So I started reading lots of books about witchcraft, I wanted to know what it REALLY is, and found that it matched exactly with how I feel about things, about life. And then I found that there is a proper training to become a real white witch, so I did that and now I'm an initiated witch. Nothing Harry Potter like, just living in harmony with nature and using the forces and powers that nature provides us and the power of thought, which is the true magic.
Being able to live this way and not caring about people liking it or not (my family hates me for it, they have no idea what I do or believe, but just the word 'witch' to them is like a red rag to a bull) is pure freedom to me. And having a husband that supports me in everything is the icing on the cake!
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What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?
by minimus inas a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.
i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.
i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.
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Bruja-del-Sol
I got DF'd after I had left my husband, because he asked me to tell him if I slept with somebody. So when I did after a short while I was honest with him and told him, so he would be free to remarry. I only wanted my freedom back, never wanted to limit his life in any way. Within five minutes after I left his house, he called the elders. Five minutes after that they called me to ask me if it was true and of course I admitted it, that was my promise to my ex. So that was the start of my exit. Two weeks later I was DF'd, but still believed that in a way they had the 'Truth'... I figured that it all made sense, I overstepped the boundaries and got what I deserved and lost my family, friends, social life, everything in the blink of an eye.
Three months later my ex told me the elders came to call on him, because they had seen me with our children, playful and laughing. They told him that was not appropriate, I was a danger to their spiritual health and he shouldn't allow them to see me for 'social contact' (our children stayed with their father after I left him, so they came to me every other weekend and whenever they wanted to be with me).
He showed them the door. He was grateful for what I did for him, giving him his freedom by being kicked out for adultery, and told them that regardless of my beliefs or feelings towards him, Jehovah or the religion, I would ALWAYS remain the mother of our children and he would not allow anyone to try and come between our children and their mother. He never ever set 1 foot back in a Kingdom Hall again, he had doubts for years and as a couple we had heard stories like this, about elders trying to put a wedge between parents and children, and we always told everybody that those stories were lies, such thing never happened, JW's would never do that... yeah right! They do... and tried it with us, taking advantage (at least attempting to) of the hurt and pain of a man who had just been left by his wife. But he stood up against them. When he told me, he said it was mainly because of how I treated him after I left. I never asked for a lot of money, let him and the children keep our house, we owned a company together but I let him have it to be able to keep his income safe... all I wanted was my freedom, out of the marriage and away from the pressure of the religion.
If I'd known beforehand that he would leave the cult himself within 3 months after I got DF'd and that he would have a 'wordly' girlfriend, I would have never done it the way I did! But at least I do have my freedom.
Anyway, his encounter with the elders, about the children visiting me, and his leaving the JW's right after, was the trigger for me to start looking on the internet. And there I found lots of information about what's really going on there and that it's just a cult. It took me a year to understand it all, and a year after they DF'd me I went to the KH for the Memorial Service and gave them a long letter I wrote, which boiled down to the fact that I wanted them to stay away from my children, and that I would NEVER return to this cult. So practically I'm DF'd and DA'd
Around that time I realised that I would die, just like anybody else... no 'destroying in Armageddon', just ordinary dying when my time comes...Well that's my 'apostasy'-story in a nutshell.