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  WT study April 5 - how uplifting! How happifying! How encouraging!

  by sir82 in

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  for you poor saps unfortunate enough to have missed yesterday's zoom watchtower study, i thought i'd prepare a little summary for you.. in fact, to keep things really short, i'll just highlight the outstanding verbs from the article.. paragraph 2: do not view.

  paragraph 4: think seriously about the warning.....partake unworthily.

  paragraph 5: do not feel...does not give....do not feel....would never tell.

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  Magnum

  Wow! That article oozes positivity!

  I haven't seen it, so what's the deal? Are they attempting to address the doctrinal issue they're having with the increasing number of partakers?
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  Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

  by AlainAlam in

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  2. beliefs

  do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

  as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

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  Magnum

  You mentioned the reddit post and said this: "most of the damage done by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is due to the unintended consequences of their actions, rather than the intention to do damage to people."

  I agree with that, however, one's intent can still be classified as evil even if the damaging consequences of his actions to others were unintended.

  Two scenarios:

  1) Joe is a hateful person who loves to cause pain and suffering to others and to harm them. He breaks into your house and tortures and kills you. He intended to harm you.

  2) John doesn't have any desire to harm you, but he is a thief and he wants what you have. He breaks into your house to steal your stuff and when he sees you in the house, he causes you harm. His intention was not to cause you harm; it was an unintended consequence of an evil desire/action. Or consider a slave owner who works his slaves brutally and doesn't reward them. His intentions are not to cause them harm; they are to get the cotton to the market so he can make money. However, he is still evil.

  So, one's intentions can still be classified as being evil even though they weren't to directly cause harm to others.

  The org has used people and destroyed lives. The prime of my life was taken from me. I was robbed of millions just in wages I could have made. And yes, the org is deceptive, and some of the leaders have to know it.

  As Cofty mentioned, they have to know the blood doctrine is wrong. They want so badly for the issue to go away. They're coming as close as they can to accepting blood transfusions. That "fractions" stuff is totally BS, and they have to know it. If I tell you not to touch my car, but you touch a tire or the windshield or a mirror, could you claim you're not touching my car (because you're only touching a part (or fraction) of it?) If I tell you not to eat my pizza, so you separate it into "fractions" like crust and cheese and pepperoni and eat them separately, are you not guitly?

  Either it's permissible to take a blood transfusion or it's not. Once can't separate blood into fractions and then accept the fractions and claim he's not taking a transfusion.

  The org knows it's wrong, but can't backtrack on the blood doctrine because of all the lost lives and the PR nightmare that would result. No, the intentions aren't to directly cause harm, but they are still evil.

  Also, as Cofty mentioned, they have to know they're wrong about 607. You have to research Carl Olof Jonsson's letters to the org, etc.

  Another deceptive thing is the disaster relief moneymaking scam. I'm going to start a thread about that hopefully soon.
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  My Girlfriend’s Beautiful Scottish Terrier Died Yesterday 😥

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  mia was almost 8 and she was the sweetest dog who was my girlfriend’s constant companion.

  she had a wonderful disposition and was just a source of joy to everyone who would meet her.. she was brought to the vet on thursday and seemed to have digestive issues.

  the vet gave her medicine and said it would make her sleepy.

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  Very sorry. It hurts. I know from vast experience.
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  This'll put a smile on your face....

  by The Fall Guy in

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  ....and you'll think about it every time you hear america singing, "a horse with no name.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4lnc6b4jri.

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  Magnum

  Dang, that was funny. My wife and I both at first thought the guy actually had a horse in his house. How do people think of this stuff?
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  What Is Your Favorite Decade or Time Period to Live In?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  some people say this decade is the most advantage and so they are happiest in the present.

  some long for the good old days before cell phones and computers.

  if you could live in an era or decade , when would it be?.

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  I think I'm biased toward the 80's because it was my last decade as a nonJW and I had so much fun in that decade (was raised as a JW, but didn't get baptized until later). I honestly don't even remember the 90's; don't know what characterizes the decade. I was so deep into JWdom as a regular pioneer/elder living in difficult circumstances that the 90's decade was a blur.
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  What Is Your Favorite Decade or Time Period to Live In?

  by minimus in

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  some people say this decade is the most advantage and so they are happiest in the present.

  some long for the good old days before cell phones and computers.

  if you could live in an era or decade , when would it be?.

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  80's. It was a fun decade. Loved the music, the style, the look and feel.
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  3M Corporation-- You are Absolutely DISGUSTING - I hope you are sitting down when reading this

  by RubaDub in

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  2. friends

  i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.

  i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).

  come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.

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  Magnum

  I am justifiably cynical. I've been hearing in the news the last few weeks how our "great" american companies are turning out more products like masks to help out in this situation. I wasn't swallowing that. I was thinking that the sad truth is that many companies and individuals do what serves them best. What you posted backs up my cynicism.

  3M probably wanted to brag about how it had helped out in this crisis. So much for that.
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  What's up with old geezers in the Bible?

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what the hell is the problem with the famous “men of old” in the bible?

  for some strange reason those old geezers (and some not so old) could not recognize who they were screwing?.

  my wife was listening to this week’s bible reading about jacob, laban, and the sisters leah, and rachael.

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  I never understood the Lot account. He was old and so drunk he was unconscious. How did he get an erection, or how did his daughters get him erect? Also, how did they both get pregnant over the course of just two nights? Did they both just happen to be fertile at that time?

  And one more thing - they were both virgins. Seems that their first times would have been painful and awkward.
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  You heard it here first. U.S. District conventions CANCELLED!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  prudent decision even if the pandemic is over you are going to have people that.

  lost jobs can't afford to go.

  not allowed any vacation time rest of year.

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  Magnum

  Are you saying that they are officially cancelled, or are you predicting that they will be?
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  Coronavirus Positive

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey all,.

  i'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus.

  i have been seeing very sick cv positive patients over the last month in my a&e role (emergency physician) it was inevitable i would contract it.. just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.. started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days.

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  Magnum

  Thank you much! Very informative. Wish you a speedy recovery.