Posts by objectivetruth

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

Endofmysteries - I agree with your statement.

Jesus tells us that in order to gain Everlasting Life, we have to believe (Or have faith as some people say) in him. If there were signs and it was 100% obvious who created Us, then it wouldnt require Faith, it would be a Question of Obedience or Rebellion.

1 Timothy 4;10 " That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe."

In my opinion those who Believe gain Everlasting Life Now.

Those who do not Believe will still have an oppurtunity to gain Everlasting life. However their Test will be based on Obedience and not Faith. During the 1000 Year Reigh.

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

cofty - I didn't say that there are no absolute truths.. What I meant, is that we are not capable of fully Understanding anything.. Beyond that we definetely don't have the ability to Explain it.

What is a Human?

What is God?

How are Jesus and his Father One but Seperate?

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

Right.. honestly I don't know if Allah is not the same god as YHWH, I haven't read the Quran.. But based on Matthew 7:17-19 it seems to produce good fruit

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

I think that the Tree was not a tree but some form of book or means of consuming wisdom. Maybe Google v2

The bible refers to knowledge as food all the time, so why does the fruit in Genesis have to be literal?

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

I'm counting my time right now btw, every response that I make is a Return Visit! Lol

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

It doesn't matter "which god", I thought the discussion was A God(s) vs no God(s)?

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

Ok you got me on that one punk.. You're right god must not exist.

Just joking, but I do need to research the thought process that goes into accepting that all things came about by chance.. I have been wrong many times in the past, so perhaps I understand the view wrong.

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

Why doesn't god do anything Tangible now?

We humans are so incredibly important that God should do all that he can to prove to us that he exists. As if maintaining order in the universe is nothing?

We are all the center of our the Universe, in our own minds.. So rationally if God has not done anything to prove to me he's real, he must not be real.

"Since every particle of space is always, and every indivisible moment of duration is every where, certainly the Maker and Lord of all things cannot be never and no where....God is the same God, always and every where. He is omnipresent not virtually only, but also substantially; for virtue cannot subsist without substance.…It is allowed by all that the Supreme God exists necessarily; and by the same necessity he exists always and every where....And thus much concerning God; to discourse of whom from the appearance of things, does certainly belong to Natural Philosophy." - Isaac Newton

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

2+2=5 - how do you personally know what evil is? How do you know what good is? Without evil would ypu appreciate good?

If everyone on earth was a Rapist Serial killer, the one who Killed and Raped the most would be the greatest human alive.. But if some one did not Rape and Kill he would be an outcast and hated.

In my view the fact that God allows us to endure and experience pain & evil for a relatively short period of time is a we'll thought out and even loving provision.

If I was given 2 choices

1. living 70 years while enduring pain, torture, sadness, despair and grief. And then living 10,000 years fully understanding good and evil.

2. Living 10,000 years only knowing good and nothing else..

I would choose to suffer evil first.

how much greater is Good when you understand the full extent of evil? How much more would you appreciate a perfect mind, if you had lived with an imperfect mind? And most of all, how much better Is Love if you have seen Hate?

Eternal Boredom... That would be Hell.

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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?

by punkofnice in

i was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.

ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.

(cuckoo!!!).

objectivetruth

Cofty - Truth as we humans like to view it is an illusion. Using words and language to try and explain or understand anything is impossible For us.

When I tell you that I have a Blue Car sitting in my brick driveway, you form a picture in your head, and try to imagine what those words actually mean.

your translation, will be based on you previous experiences, and your viewpoint on life and your surroundings.. And the picture you arrive at will always be different then what I intended for you to see.

To better understand, how everyone sees things differently watch these videos - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbASOcqc1Ss

This guy is a Math Savant named Daniel Tammet.. When he does math he visualizes colors,shapes and lines as opposed to simple numbers like many of us do.. When this guys says "7 is Red" we have no way of knowing what he is talking about, but it is Perfectly Clear for him.

For this reason it is impossible to have "the truth"..there is only more right, or less wrong.

I used to think that The only absolute truth was math.. I thought 1+1= TWO always.

But then i was posed with this question.. What is one raindrop + one raindrop (if the raindrops touch either)

1+1=1