I agree with both of your views.. I'm curious, have either of you researched Biblical Prophecy to determine whether or not the Prophetic Claims are correct, and have indeed happened?
objectivetruth
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Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?
by objectivetruth ini've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.
i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..
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objectivetruth
Awesome Quote, Island Man " Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without religion you will find good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things. But to get good people to do bad things - that takes religion."
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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?
by objectivetruth ini've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.
i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..
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objectivetruth
I Love this Story from Gandhi
" Gandhi and Reverend Andrews, a Presbyterian missionary, were walking together in South Africa. “The two suddenly find their way blocked by young thugs. Reverend Andrews takes one look at the menacing gangsters and decides to run for it. Gandhi stops him. ‘Doesn’t the New Testament say if an enemy strikes you on the right cheek you should offer him the left?’ Andrews mumbles that he thought the phrase was used metaphorically. ‘I’m not so sure,’ Gandhi replies. ‘I suspect he meant you must show courage – be willing to take a blow, several blows, to show you will not strike back nor will you be turned aside. And when you do that it calls on something in human nature, something that makes his hatred decrease and his respect increase. I think Christ grasped that and I have seen it work.’
"Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians - you are not like him."
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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?
by objectivetruth ini've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.
i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..
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objectivetruth
Hi Everyone,
Thank you for your comments so far. I have read Several Studies, and the Findings Match many of your Responses..
On Average, Atheists care more about their fellow man, are More Educated, are more Peaceful.
However some studies also show that Atheists on Average have less "Hope" then do Religious Individuals.
I know that it is easier to Fabricate Truth using statistics than it is with the Bible.. But my Observations on here, confirm these studies.
Have any of you ever considered this, If there were no Religous Texts, and no Religion, would you still be Atheist?
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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?
by objectivetruth ini've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.
i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..
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objectivetruth
Witness my Fury - Wicked Spirit Forces are Factored into my theory. I believe that they have Created the PERFECT deception, by creating Religion and Manipulating Scared Texts, they have brought a tremendous amount of Hatred,Pride & Death into the World.
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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?
by objectivetruth ini've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.
i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..
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objectivetruth
Ok I see that my question is very loaded.. It is so common for Theists & Atheiests to engage in disputes, but that is not my intent at all..
Here are the main concepts of my "theory".
- Most humans receive their knowledge of God from Tradition (Church,Family,Society,etc)
- Most humans accept these Traditional Views as "Truth"
- Most religious view points are derived from interpretations of sacred Religious Texts (Bible,Quaran,Book of Mormon,etc)
- Most people do not make any effort to challenge Traditional Doctrine or The Actual Religious Texts.
- For this Reason people View their Religious Texts as their God. They decide that Whatever that Religious Text says about God is the Truth.
- Every Religious Text has been Manipulated, Revised, and Adapted over the Centuries to support Various Interpretations.
- Being a Theist it is my Opinion that we are made in God's Image, and if we stopped searching for God in our various Religous Texts, and instead we looked inside of our selves, We would Better Understand God.
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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?
by objectivetruth ini've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.
i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..
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objectivetruth
Ishmael - Thank you for your response, what you say about Morality and happiness are both true, they are influenced by many factors.. I guess I Should clarify Morallity, since Morals are subjective.. Instead of saying Morallity let's instead say.. Are Atheists more likely to Fulfill "The Golden Rule" do to others what you would like done to you.
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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?
by objectivetruth ini've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.
i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..
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objectivetruth
I've heard some view points that state, Atheists are Generally more Moral & Caring for fellow humans, than are Theists.
I'd like to hear some personal stories of Life Changes and Quality of Life after you became Atheist. I have a simple theory that may explain this.
I'll explain my Theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as I really am interested in the Personal Changes that you experienced.. Thank You very much, and I look forward to your stories.
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One language in the new system
by OneEyedJoe inso at the convention, one of the talks was about how all people will speak a single language in the new system.
my ears perked up when i heard at the outset "now, we can't be dogmatic about this" because that immediately makes me think that they're backing away from a previously dogmatic stance.
he went on to say that everyone will be speaking hebrew in the new system because "evidently" (another word that gets my ears to perk up these days) that was what was spoken before the languages were confused at bable.
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objectivetruth
Yes I agree with this viewpoint, that Ancient Hebrew is the Language of God.
If the Watchtower takes this stance, I'm curious if they would agree with the Fulfillment of Prophecy that Hebrew has begun ito be restored and used by The Jews.
A PURE LANGUAGE: “I will restore until the peoples a pure language” Zeph 3:9. For nearly 2000 years, Israel has been scattered through out the earth, yet in the last 50 years, they have revived the Hebrew language spoken as it was 2000 years ago.
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When people Worship the Bible Over God.
by objectivetruth in"worthy, therefore, of rejection is every one who is willing so much as to hear anything against the monarchy of god; but if any one dares to hear anything against god, as trusting in the scriptures, let him first of all consider with me that if any one, as he pleases, form a dogma agreeable to himself, and then carefully search the scriptures, he will be able to produce many testimonies from them in favour of the dogma that he has formed.
how, then, can confidence be placed in them against god, when what every man wishes is found in them?".
clementine.
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objectivetruth
An unconfirmed Clementine.. He claims to have known Barnabas & Peter.. He has a really Insightful way of deciphering matters.
One of his works can be found here.. http://biblehub.com/library/unknown/the_clementine_homilies/
Very interesting reading, and thought provoking. - The Bible that he's referencing is the OT