Posts by objectivetruth

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SENSATIONALIST HEADLINES CONCERNING "ADJUSTMENTS" MADE IN ALL CAPS!!!

by Oubliette in

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adjustments, can you please refrain from posting all your threads in all caps?.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/member/93865/started/1.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/member/93865/started/2.

objectivetruth

Steve2 I'll handle this one.. Please step aside.

I have RECENTLY promoted my self as the Official Rule Maker and Enforcer of all Things JWN.. With this in mind, I will commandeer this thread.

ADJUSTMENTS - After an intense and thorough examination of a Subset of your Threads, A clear and Undeniable Trend has become manifest.

You used all Capital Letters in creating your name, this gives us a Hint that you use Capital Letters when you Support a statement, or you feel fond of it.
The first word of your First thread which does not consist of all Capitals is "Mexican" The Second uncapitalized thread is "Marriage" the third is "College" and most telling the 4th usage is "Boob"

Combining these 4 Titles together we have "Mexicans Married College Boobs." (Your intended message is clear)

With this infraction you are guilty of 2 JWN Policy Violations.

Yelling at all of the nice Boys and Girls on JWN, by the Usage of all Capital Letters.
Racist,Sexist,Politically Incorrect Hidden Messages.

It is clear that you have not read the TOU policies on this site, so I'll help you out..

We hate all Caps, when someone uses all caps it makes us think that you are saying something EXTREMELY Important, something so Important I can't even think of an example right now! Our time is Valuable and we come here for Important Breaking News.. Your Misleading titles derail our focus, and it makes us sad. For this reason, you will not be permitted to use any capital letters for the next 90 Days.. This includes the beginning of Sentences as well as names. This is not limited to JWN either, this carries over to work and home. - If you break this rule your punishment is to stand on a kitchen towel in the middle of the kitchen, kinda like standing in the corner but where you can see all the things going on, but can not participate in.. This will remind you of the Valuable news Bulletins your fellow JWN members miss when they are drawn to click on one of your CAPITAL POST TITLES.. You must do this daily for 6 (Prophetic) weeks. (Equivilant 2 Years)

For your Pseudo Racist,Sexist,Politically Incorrect Statement you have to get a Tan and wear a Bra with Silicone Breasts in it for 2 hours while in public.

If you have any questions, please direct them to

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What drives good people to do evil things without blinking?

by EdenOne in

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please read this short article and then think for a minute on how this apply to those amongst the jehovah's witnessses who enforce organizational policies that harm people (such as shunning, for example, but there are others, such as blood, rejection of higher education etc), and those who blindly comply with such pratices - both of them otherwise "nice, good people" in every other regards, and who apparently don't see anything wrong in doing something harmful, even evil, to their brethren.. what is this?

the "banality of evil", or, instead, because there's such a strong identification with a cause, people just accept they are doing the right thing simply because the authority that is regarded as legitimatly representing such cause has instructed them to do so?.

interesting thought - and this question too: if one ceases to see such "authority" as the legitimate agent of the cause, will that simple change cause the blind to finally become aware of the evil they've been enforcing / complying to?.

objectivetruth

This is a Question with Multiple semi-unrelated Levels..

The First level is, what is a "Good Person"? Sure there are plenty of people that appear as good, but when they are placed in a certain situation their true Nature Shows..

A simple example of this can be seen in observing others playing a Competitive Sport. With Witnesses as an Example, you might have 3 brothers that are known as being kind and sweet in the congregation, however once they get onto a Basketball Court these same brothers are throwing Dirty Elbow Shots, and they are trying their best to bridle their rage towards each other.. After observing this you have to ask.. "Did the Sport Change these Men?" OR "Did the Sport simply show who these men Truly are?" It is my view that The SPort removed the Fine Tuned Facade, and gave a Glimpse of the True Nature of these men.. Conclusion.. There are not too many "Good People" when it comes down to it.

The Second level is a bit more complicated - All Humans posess 4 Qualities which can compliment or oppose each another..

The Qualities are Love,Justice,Wisdom,Power.. all four of these qualities are regulated by two other qualities.. Pride & Humility.

We would think of a "Good Person" as someone that has a great deal of Love, however when this person is put into a situation where he has to decide between Love & Justice, humility is the Deciding Factor. If he is a Proud person, most likely he will take the route that favors his Perception of Justice, if he is a Humble person he will realize that he himself is also flawed, and for this reason he will take the route that Favors Love (Forgiveness).

The same applies when this "Good Person" faces a situation where he has to decide between Justice & Power.. If he is not Humble, he may choose to Display his power so as to teach any onlookers a lesson.

The Third Level involves Self Confidence and Insecurities -

In a Group Setting, an Insecure person subconsciessly places a great deal of Value upon being accepted Socially.. This leads him to make decesions based on the perceived consequences relating to his peers accepting him or rejecting him. The study mentioned in the Article is a Prime Example of this.. The Test subjects that were responsible for Increasing Voltage at the request of the Supervisor, did so because they were insecure and they feared dissapointing the Instructor.

This becomes even more powerful when you have a leader or instructor whom has mastered the Art of Rhetoric..He Promotes him self as someone who deserves respect and devotion / He convinces you that by following him, you will be accomplishing a worthy deed / He manipulates you to think that his Plan is Logical and thus Correct.

Humans are feable, and gullible.. If a Human does not have a STRONG belief system, coupled with True Humility he can be convinced by someone, or himself to do anything.

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The More I Think, The More I Lose Faith In BIBLE!!

by NoMoreHustle in

sitting through this weeks wt study.

paragraph came up about how "a fire came out from jah & consumed (korah and) the 250 men offering the incense".

i said to myself this supposedly happened couple of thousand years ago.

objectivetruth

The Bhagavad Gita says of Holy Books - " As a man can drink water from any side of a full tank, so the skilled theologian can wrest from any scripture that which will serve his purpose."

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The More I Think, The More I Lose Faith In BIBLE!!

by NoMoreHustle in

sitting through this weeks wt study.

paragraph came up about how "a fire came out from jah & consumed (korah and) the 250 men offering the incense".

i said to myself this supposedly happened couple of thousand years ago.

objectivetruth

Terry is right.. There is far too much emphasis placed on the Bible Now.. There is also too much emphasis placed on "Doctrine" & "Bible Knowledge"

In a few ways Jesus showed that the current "Bible Worship" Mentality is not how it is supposed to be.

1. He never wrote anything down himself. (If he intended to create a doctrine he would have wrote it himself)

2. His father has not protected the Bible from Manipulation and Misinterpretation.. (If The Bible were Intended to be an exact Road Map for life and beliefs, Yahweh would have made sure the bible was infallible)

Acts 1:6 shows that Jesus did not place any importance on his Disciples understanding every detail of Bible Propphecy and future events..

" So when the apostles were with Jesus, they kept asking him, "Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom? 7 - He replied, "The Father alone has the authority to set those dates and times, and they are not for you to know."

He could have simply said "No Israel will not be restored at this time, it is for a future time that you are not permitted to know" instead he left them guessing, essentially ignoring their questions. They may have lived many years anticipating "the end" just as some do today.

The Book of Enoch is a fascinating Book, it contains very accurate prophecies.. Here is one interesting statement by Enoch in the book "

9 He taught men the art of writing with ink and paper, and through this many have gone astray, from eternity to eternity, and to this day.

10 For men were not created for this, that they should confirm their faith like this, with pen and ink.

11 For men were created no differently from the Angels, so that they might remain righteous and pure, and death, which destroys everything, would not have touched them; but through this knowledge of theirs they are being destroyed and through this power death consumes them."

Enoch is claiming that a fallen angel in Noah's time taught men the art of writing down their religious opinions, and he then goes on To state that this has lead many astray..

If you think about it, the Bible (And Religions based on the bible) has caused as many wars as Lust and Greed have caused.

This being said.. The whole bible is not worthless.. As a matter of fact, there are portions that are so profound, they compensate for all of the useless, contrived content.

Matthew 5-6 are the Greatest and most meaningful books ever written.. The Sermon on The mount is not truth, it is Absolute Truth. anyone that spends a good portion of their time Studying these 2 chapters and applying them in their live will see a complete transformation, and they will see God.

PM These 2 Chapters changed Leo Tolstoy's life and view point of life he went from being a Nialist to a Disciple of Christ, and in turn Martin Luther King was changed by Tolstoy's writings on these 2 Books. Other Great Sages of history have based their life and teachings on the sermon on the mount, or the Principles in the Sermon on The Mount.. (Gandhi,Tolstoy,The Dalai Lama,MLK) Even Budha came to understand these principles and he found Nirvana because of it.

Take the Scriptures with a grain of salt... Implement the good in your life, and ignore the Bad.

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How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

by BucketShopBill in

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is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

objectivetruth

By The Way, in case you missed this, here are instructions to Donate :

If you would like to Donate, please Visit this Link :

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1GjIC30H2XGnWffJ-7UzVkUr-zvR2Mg6So22Y9-V-Kgg/viewform

Please fill in your intended donation amount, you do not have to fill in the "JWN User Name" area if you do not wish to.. This just helps us keep track of our progress.

Once you have clicked "Submit" you will be directed to a Secure Paypal Donation Page. You will be able to send any amount you like on this page. The Donation will go directly to Terry's personal paypal account.

(If you do not have a Paypal Account, you can pay by credit card as well, there is an option that says "Don't have a PayPal account?" if you need to pay by Credit Card find this area and click "Continue")

If you have already filled out the form, and you just need the paypal link please PM me, or if you don't want to fill out the form PM me for the Direct Paypal Link.

Thank You Everyone!

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How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

by BucketShopBill in

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friends

is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

objectivetruth

Hi Everyone,

Sorry to sound cheesy, but this is such a profound and special experience for me.. I've never been involved in something like this, and I'm SO happy for Terry. I'm enamored with the Community and all of it's caring members. WOW! In less than 72 Hours we have raised over $500 To help Terry.

I have messaged Terry for the official amount raised, but my unofficial records show about $550.00.. if this is accurate, we only need about another $100.00.

I would imagine that the amount raised is less than $550, so we still need help! Many members have donated.. Some have donated $5.00 some have donated more, this is a community effort and we dont each have to contribute a lot, we all just need to donate some.

Thank you so much again, I don't know Terry, but by reading his posts it is clear to see that he is truly exuberanting gratitude and Love, towards all of us.

We are a family.

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Sept 1 service meeting mystery revealed

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

the letter has appeared at last - just for uk.

it is a money grab for the new bethel which has been approved.

there is a video to be shown - just watched it - brief summary of uk bethels, why current one is too small, why we need money to build a new one.

objectivetruth

You could write down - "The Full Amount"

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Outrageous Comment

by Yondaime in

what was the most outrageous comment you ever heard during a wt study?.

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please share your experiences..

objectivetruth

LOL @ Data-Dog..

" We are the only true religion"

- How do you know? -

"We are the only Religion that teaches the truth"

- What Truth? -

"The truth in the Bible"

- How do you know you teach the truth in the Bible? -

"Because the Faithful and Discreet Slave, has confirmed it"

-How can you trust them? -

"Because Jesus said.. "Who really is the faithful & discreet slave"

- Soooooo -

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Outrageous Comment

by Yondaime in

what was the most outrageous comment you ever heard during a wt study?.

.

please share your experiences..

objectivetruth

"i've seen a lot of Buzzards flying around lately.. I think they are getting ready for The Feast"

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How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

by BucketShopBill in

jw
friends

is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

objectivetruth

We now have Terry's Paypal address, we ran a test Donation, and Terry confirmed that he received the Payment in his Paypal.

If you would like to Donate, please Visit this Link :

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1GjIC30H2XGnWffJ-7UzVkUr-zvR2Mg6So22Y9-V-Kgg/viewform

Please fill in your intended donation amount, you do not have to fill in the "JWN User Name" area if you do not wish to.. This just helps us keep track of our progress.

Once you have clicked "Submit" you will be directed to a Secure Paypal Donation Page. You will be able to send any amount you like on this page. The Donation will go directly to Terry's personal paypal account.

(If you do not have a Paypal Account, you can pay by credit card as well, there is an option that says "Don't have a PayPal account?" if you need to pay by Credit Card find this area and click "Continue")

If you have already filled out the form, and you just need the paypal link please PM me, or if you don't want to fill out the form PM me for the Direct Paypal Link.

Thank You Everyone!