Sparrowdown: you are right. I forgot the conclusion of the matter after everything being heard is Jehovah's Witnesses are right and we are wrong, or am I wrong?
runForever
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get around this one?
by runForever ini am the vine; you are the branches.
if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".
according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get around this one?
by runForever ini am the vine; you are the branches.
if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".
according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.
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runForever
“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned."
According to Jehovah's Witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of Christ. They say only the anointed who are the spiritual brothers of
Christ are part of the body of Christ or in Christ. So here is the question: If the ultra-anointed, ultra-spiritually blessed and holy brothers that rule with Christ and alone have the testimony of the spirit of God that they are his children need to part of the true vine which is Jesus or else be chopped off and burned where does that leave the common Jehovah's Witness? Doesn't that mean they can't bear any fruit because they are not part of the vine -
"apart from me you can do nothing"? Or am I wrong? :)
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Do not store up treasures on earth
by runForever ini had a thought about this scripture: "do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,.
and thieves break in and steal".
it really seems to fit storing up treasures in the jehovah's witnesses organization.
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smiddy, I do not know the total worth of the watchtower. I estimate they spend around 350 to 400 million a year at least though.
3 magazines a month each with a printing around 45 million that is quite a bit. Then at least 200 million a year on personnel. It looks like they have
cinched things up for now but I don't think it would take much to start them on a downward spiral.
Wtwizard, i agree there is something horrible about the jehovah's witness entity named Jehovah.
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Do not store up treasures on earth
by runForever ini had a thought about this scripture: "do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,.
and thieves break in and steal".
it really seems to fit storing up treasures in the jehovah's witnesses organization.
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prologos, I think we agree to a point but I'm specifically talking about the tagline when they say you are building up a good name but the
'deposits' are in actuality with people-humans who assure you that your good rep is safe with them. Yes the pioneering, work, talks were supposed to be blessings but the long term was you were building up a good name... unfortunately it was really trusting in the human organization which then pilfers
the record of your 'works' by now deeming you and your works completely worthless.
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Proverbs and the group of thieves.
by runForever inscriptures like this i wondered about when i was in.
a group of thieves who are conspiring to murder a man.
and take his posessions and get all sorts of loot?
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Scriptures like this I wondered about when I was in. A group of thieves who are conspiring to murder a man
and take his posessions and get all sorts of loot? That didn't seem realistic at all that this would be such a common occurence
that Solomon makes this specific warning but now it makes sense. If some people decide they want to ruin the reputation of someone else they pretty much do the same thing as this scripture. They 'find and innocent soul' who is an easy target. They 'swallow them alive' in slander. They go after their 'valuable things' which is their credit and reputation and seek to 'fill their houses with loot'. By doing this they look good and the other looks bad without doing any work. And sometimes this results in real death such as suicide. Proverbs 1 : 8-14.
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Do not store up treasures on earth
by runForever ini had a thought about this scripture: "do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,.
and thieves break in and steal".
it really seems to fit storing up treasures in the jehovah's witnesses organization.
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runForever
I had a thought about this scripture: "Do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,
and thieves break in and steal". It really seems to fit storing up treasures in the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. We build
up our treasure in the reputation of ourselves and the seeming credit we build up by going out in service, acts of mercy, time on quickbuilds and so on.
But really our "treasure" is broken into and stolen by lying slander, from elders who claim we are evil, by disfellowshippings, by the label apostate.
This makes the elders and others look righteous and us look bad - they have stolen our treasure and we don't have anything of that left. Hindsights 20/20 but just thought that this is an interesting way to look at this scripture.
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runForever
That is all.
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91 year old man on Jw tv CGI character?
by runForever inthere is a 91 year old man in the first episode of jw tv.
does something about him look odd to you on the full frontal close-ups?
it somewhat seems like he is cg maybe with an actor really talking but a made up cg face.. before you say no look at this and this was back in 2008:.
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There is a 91 year old man in the first episode of Jw tv. Does something about him look odd to you on the full frontal close-ups? It somewhat seems like he is cg maybe with an actor really talking but a made up cg face.
Before you say no look at this and this was back in 2008:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiX5d3rC6o
Guys just looks cg like the gollum or something.
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jehovahswitnessesexperts website
by love2Bworldly inare most people aware of this website?
they have a video that is pretty interesting.
it was too long though and i didn't have time to listen to the whole thing.
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watched the video and it's amazing to see how much things are covered up and outright lied about. It's amazing how much it lines up with the cult profile in "combatting cult mind control". I was pretty amazed at that book because it even pointed out that cults will and do use experts to
backup the credit of the cult which you wouldn't expect because you would think how would they ever get them to do that? It's pretty amazing to start seeing how well complete straight faced lying and brute tactics work.
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New Awake! Dealing With Mental Illness
by runForever incontains a list of 9 practical steps except they forgot one: 10. do not become a jehovah's witness.. .
1. follow the treatment prescribed.
by qualified mental-health.
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Contains a list of 9 practical steps except they forgot one: 10. Do Not Become A Jehovah's Witness.
1. Follow the treatment prescribed
by qualified mental-health
professionals.
2. Maintain a balanced and stable
daily routine.
3. Stay physically active.
4. Get enough sleep.
5. Take time each day to relax.
6. Eat a nutritious and balanced
diet.
7. Limit alcohol consumption and
drugs that are not prescribed for
you.
8. Avoid isolation; spend time with
people whom you trust and who
care for you.
9. Give attention to your spiritual
needs.