Posts by runForever

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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get around this one?

by runForever in

i am the vine; you are the branches.

if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".

according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.

runForever

Crazyguy: john 15 whole chapter and that is true. OldHippie: Thanks for that, I guess they are trying to say there is a rubboff effect as in if you associate by

osmosis you will have fruits.

insight says this about anointed ones regarding the body of christ:

"One who is an anointed member of the Christian congregation, the body of Christ, and who commits fornication is taking a member of the Christ away and making that one a member of a harlot."

but just down from there it says this about non anointed "followers":

"One who is a member of the body of Christ, as well as other dedicated persons who are associated with these spiritually begotten body members, must avoid not only physical fornication but also spiritual fornication."

so they are saying in fact that if you are not anointed you are not part of Christ's body.

KateWild: out of curiosity why do you think the bible is nonsense?

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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get around this one?

by runForever in

i am the vine; you are the branches.

if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".

according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.

runForever

Sparrowdown: you are right. I forgot the conclusion of the matter after everything being heard is Jehovah's Witnesses are right and we are wrong, or am I wrong?

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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get around this one?

by runForever in

i am the vine; you are the branches.

if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".

according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.

runForever

“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned."

According to Jehovah's Witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of Christ. They say only the anointed who are the spiritual brothers of

Christ are part of the body of Christ or in Christ. So here is the question: If the ultra-anointed, ultra-spiritually blessed and holy brothers that rule with Christ and alone have the testimony of the spirit of God that they are his children need to part of the true vine which is Jesus or else be chopped off and burned where does that leave the common Jehovah's Witness? Doesn't that mean they can't bear any fruit because they are not part of the vine -

"apart from me you can do nothing"? Or am I wrong? :)

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Do not store up treasures on earth

by runForever in

i had a thought about this scripture: "do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,.

and thieves break in and steal".

it really seems to fit storing up treasures in the jehovah's witnesses organization.

runForever

smiddy, I do not know the total worth of the watchtower. I estimate they spend around 350 to 400 million a year at least though.

3 magazines a month each with a printing around 45 million that is quite a bit. Then at least 200 million a year on personnel. It looks like they have

cinched things up for now but I don't think it would take much to start them on a downward spiral.

Wtwizard, i agree there is something horrible about the jehovah's witness entity named Jehovah.

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Do not store up treasures on earth

by runForever in

i had a thought about this scripture: "do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,.

and thieves break in and steal".

it really seems to fit storing up treasures in the jehovah's witnesses organization.

runForever

prologos, I think we agree to a point but I'm specifically talking about the tagline when they say you are building up a good name but the

'deposits' are in actuality with people-humans who assure you that your good rep is safe with them. Yes the pioneering, work, talks were supposed to be blessings but the long term was you were building up a good name... unfortunately it was really trusting in the human organization which then pilfers

the record of your 'works' by now deeming you and your works completely worthless.

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Proverbs and the group of thieves.

by runForever in

scriptures like this i wondered about when i was in.

a group of thieves who are conspiring to murder a man.

and take his posessions and get all sorts of loot?

runForever

Scriptures like this I wondered about when I was in. A group of thieves who are conspiring to murder a man

and take his posessions and get all sorts of loot? That didn't seem realistic at all that this would be such a common occurence

that Solomon makes this specific warning but now it makes sense. If some people decide they want to ruin the reputation of someone else they pretty much do the same thing as this scripture. They 'find and innocent soul' who is an easy target. They 'swallow them alive' in slander. They go after their 'valuable things' which is their credit and reputation and seek to 'fill their houses with loot'. By doing this they look good and the other looks bad without doing any work. And sometimes this results in real death such as suicide. Proverbs 1 : 8-14.

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Do not store up treasures on earth

by runForever in

i had a thought about this scripture: "do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,.

and thieves break in and steal".

it really seems to fit storing up treasures in the jehovah's witnesses organization.

runForever

I had a thought about this scripture: "Do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,

and thieves break in and steal". It really seems to fit storing up treasures in the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. We build

up our treasure in the reputation of ourselves and the seeming credit we build up by going out in service, acts of mercy, time on quickbuilds and so on.

But really our "treasure" is broken into and stolen by lying slander, from elders who claim we are evil, by disfellowshippings, by the label apostate.

This makes the elders and others look righteous and us look bad - they have stolen our treasure and we don't have anything of that left. Hindsights 20/20 but just thought that this is an interesting way to look at this scripture.

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David Splane is a Joke.

by runForever in

jw
friends

that is all.. .

.

runForever

That is all.

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91 year old man on Jw tv CGI character?

by runForever in

there is a 91 year old man in the first episode of jw tv.

does something about him look odd to you on the full frontal close-ups?

it somewhat seems like he is cg maybe with an actor really talking but a made up cg face.. before you say no look at this and this was back in 2008:.

runForever

There is a 91 year old man in the first episode of Jw tv. Does something about him look odd to you on the full frontal close-ups? It somewhat seems like he is cg maybe with an actor really talking but a made up cg face.

Before you say no look at this and this was back in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiX5d3rC6o

Guys just looks cg like the gollum or something.

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jehovahswitnessesexperts website

by love2Bworldly in

jw
friends

are most people aware of this website?

they have a video that is pretty interesting.

it was too long though and i didn't have time to listen to the whole thing.

runForever

watched the video and it's amazing to see how much things are covered up and outright lied about. It's amazing how much it lines up with the cult profile in "combatting cult mind control". I was pretty amazed at that book because it even pointed out that cults will and do use experts to

backup the credit of the cult which you wouldn't expect because you would think how would they ever get them to do that? It's pretty amazing to start seeing how well complete straight faced lying and brute tactics work.