Posts by abiather

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Governing Body Running Scarred and 12-13-14 "Might Be the End"?

by RottenRiley in

this went bad, i hit click before i could post my thoughts about the fear factor going through our crazy kingdom hall.

the title of this thread was aimed at asking why the governing body is becoming so afraid and demanding the elders and rank and file to put their trust in the dukes of the kingdom hall.

(pslams 146:3).. .

abiather

They are not worried not only about dates, but also about the truthfulness of certain verses such as this:

“I say to you that many will come from THE EAST and THE WEST, and will take their places at the feast WITH ABRAHAM, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of HEAVEN. But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Mathew 8:11, 12)

Will we “be thrown outside”? is another worry!

And who are those coming from the EAST and WEST to inherit HEAVEN along with Abraham? How many misunderstanding one can make in just one verse of the Bible?

1) Abraham is going to be in Heaven

2) People from The East and The West are going to be in Heaven

3) Are JWs who claim to be the sole Kingdom Heirs to be thrown outside?

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Drug overdose causes death of Union Ministers wife!

by abiather in

jw
friends

1) medicine, if taken carelessly, can kill a person!

this came to the light because the one died was a wife of union minister, who was an under-secretary in un before.

this can happen, because it was over-dosage.

abiather

Yes, cantleave, that is what I wanted to highlight. Before going for any major treatment, get maximum opinions on the subject--including on alternative medicine, as happened in the case of Clinton.

To my own fleshly sister, doctors suggested heart-operation to replace a narrowed valve. She did not bother to do it. However, her friend doctor said: If its from the birth, body will take care of it. You only need to be careful not to aggravate it by your diet and life-style. She did that, and it is now more than 25 years--she has no problem.

Everywhere GREED rules!

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

abiather

Here is an interesting view by a scientist (Peter Lynds)

"Why there is something rather than nothing"

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Drug overdose causes death of Union Ministers wife!

by abiather in

jw
friends

1) medicine, if taken carelessly, can kill a person!

this came to the light because the one died was a wife of union minister, who was an under-secretary in un before.

this can happen, because it was over-dosage.

abiather

1) Medicine, if taken carelessly, can kill a person! This came to the light because the one died was a wife of Union Minister, who was an under-Secretary in UN before. This can happen, because it was over-dosage. OK (here is the link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Drug-overdose-cause-of-Sunanda-Pushkars-death-AIIMS-autopsy-report/articleshow/29118949.cms)

2) Have you heard of former president Clinton’s misery? His mistake was that He trusted high-profile doctors and underwent many bypass surgeries, but all in vain. However, when he tried 'China Study Diet' or 'Whole Food Plant Based Diet (WFPB)' and decided to follow the diet for six months even though not very strictly, within six months his clogged arteries cleaned up, calcium deposits washed away, stent got removed, weight reduced to normal and he became an active energetic and charismatic man as he was while he was the president of USA.

3) In India the total number of patients dying of angiography on the diagnosis table every year equals to the total number of people killed in all the terrorist attacks put together from 1987 to 2013! An impartial study would reveal that more often patients die of the complications of the surgery and the long term side effects of the medication involved, rather than by the disease itself!

This is not to alarm you, but just to suggest that how cautiously we will have to tread our paths.—Proverbs 22:3

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JWs do not share the mind of Jehovah!

by abiather in

jehovahs witnesses are a teaching and preaching organization.. however, history shows that teachings do not make people self-motivated to do good or to be spiritual.

(mathew 23:37, 38) hence god will not choose an organization to serve no purpose!

in fact, he simply denounces preachers, teachers and miracle-performers.

abiather

DATA-DOG

You aptly said: “They really do put their trust in nobles.”

I personally witnessed something so detestable in connection with this, very recently. I was attending a JW Wedding feasts. It was a grand wedding. Among the invitees, there were some Disfellowshipped ones too, who happened to be the fleshly relatives of the bride-groom. Among the disfellowshipped ones, there was one very rich man. He was given special attention by elders—even more than the bona-fide JWs. This is something James could not even have imagined would ever happen when he wrote James 2:2-4

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JWs do not share the mind of Jehovah!

by abiather in

jehovahs witnesses are a teaching and preaching organization.. however, history shows that teachings do not make people self-motivated to do good or to be spiritual.

(mathew 23:37, 38) hence god will not choose an organization to serve no purpose!

in fact, he simply denounces preachers, teachers and miracle-performers.

abiather

AndDontCallMeShirley

It seems you have a SUPER-human eyes into the past of JWs—very good.

Crazyguy

Very wonderful quotes from WT

Both of your memories and the prompt linking are the proof of divine providence.

What proof do we require to say God exists?!

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JWs do not share the mind of Jehovah!

by abiather in

jehovahs witnesses are a teaching and preaching organization.. however, history shows that teachings do not make people self-motivated to do good or to be spiritual.

(mathew 23:37, 38) hence god will not choose an organization to serve no purpose!

in fact, he simply denounces preachers, teachers and miracle-performers.

abiather

AndDontCallMeShirley

That is a very apt, and bold observation!

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JWs do not share the mind of Jehovah!

by abiather in

jehovahs witnesses are a teaching and preaching organization.. however, history shows that teachings do not make people self-motivated to do good or to be spiritual.

(mathew 23:37, 38) hence god will not choose an organization to serve no purpose!

in fact, he simply denounces preachers, teachers and miracle-performers.

abiather

blondie

Because Jesus is against organised religion, which always is good in the beginning, but ends up as great human rights violators! (Mathew 7:21-23) JWs very well know that Jesus is concerned only with fruitage, not teaching and preaching. (Mathew 7:17-19; 21:43)

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

abiather

Qcmbr

I appreciated your simple way of putting things under HOW and WHY! It is very nice.

Yet if we apply the same logic to scientists and their inventions, your argument may waver!

You take a wonderfully working robot, and you can explain so wonderfully the “HOW” of it, as being purely made of material elements, and leave out the “WHY” of it—those intelligent scientists who painstakingly designed it and their VERY purpose. Yet the unanswered question of WHY will remain MORE PRONOUNCED than the answered question of HOW?

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

abiather

nicolaou

What a realistice OBSERVATION! Thank you for that.

This reminds me of what happened in our place. A rich man had a daughter who was very ugly-looking, hence was finding it difficult to get her married. In desperation, he had her married to a blind man. And they were leading a happy married life. Years passed. One day, rich man had a visitor who was his childhood friend. When he saw the rich man’s son-in-law, he suggested that there is a capable doctor in his city who can cure this type of blindness. Rich man became sad within, and began to resist the idea. If you were his friend, you would assert your point with more and more force and will end up in troubled relationship with the rich man. For you do not know that the reason behind his refusal is his convenience—he is afraid of the possibility that once cured of his blindness, his son-in-law may abandon his wife!

It also reminds me of this chinese proverb:

"One fish asked the other, Do you believe in this ocean that they talk about?"

Many do not realize our limitation! We see the world from our limited perceptual framework. Despite an overwhelming evolution of the human race, the human mind is severely restricted by what it can perceive through the senses. What we hear is limited by the frequencies our ears can process. Dogs can hear many higher frequencies and hence have a very different perception of the same sounds. Our sight is limited by the light frequencies our eyes can relate to; since pit vipers can sense heat from infrared rays they must construct the same world rather differently. If we had a different receiver mechanism, we would be hearing other frequencies and seeing in new ways.