My dad took a dose of that once when he had a sore throat. He took it neat and it nearly killed him. His throat closed up so he could not breathe. He was OK after a minute or so, but it really frightened him.
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Apple Cider Vinegar
by poppers ini've been drinking 1 tbs with a glass of water twice daily for digestion for about 3 weeks now.
i've found it helps, but it also acts as an appetite suppressant; i've lost several pounds since using it.
i'm consuming fewer calories because i'm just not as hungry as before.
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caroline77
Do you mean 1st thess 4 v 13-17
Those who have no hope are people who are not baptised into Christ and do not expect to rise from the dead.
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I'm out- Random thoughts on leaving as I look in the rear view mirror
by Skinnedsheep init is amazing to look back at three years and see the journey that we have taken.
i went from being an elder to fading completely in the course of those three years.
along the way i am happy to say that my lovely wife woke up and realized that the truth is nothing but a lie.
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caroline77
It is so nice to drop the phobia of how worldly people will corrupt you.
They can't feel very strong in their faith if they think they can be corrupted by talking to people.
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Scottish independance in two days what do you think?
by barry inone thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.
if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?
even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .
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caroline77
If they do split off, will they be part of the common market? If not, will they have to have passports to come to England? There are too many questions to be answered, so I don't see how anyone can make a sensible decision.
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Where Will Jesus Come When He Comes?
by Cold Steel inaccording to both christian and jewish eschatology, the messiah will come to jerusalem, where he will deliver the jews from hostile nations "round about.
"since the jehovah's witnesses and other adventists don't believe his coming will be literally fulfilled, but figuratively fulfilled, they simply believe he will return to the earth, where he will slay the wicked and the righteous will be caught up to meet him in the air.. first we have a christian declaration:.
and when [jesus] had spoken these things, while [the apostles] beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
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caroline77
Interesting point, Cold Steel. When Jesus returns the mount of Olives will split in two. This has not happened yet. I'm sure it will make the news when it happens.
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angels and women
by caroline77 ini was told by jw's that angels came down to earth before the flood, and had children with women.. i have a question about this and would like the sort of answer a jw would give so that i can be ready for them when they come to my door.. if one third of god's angelic staff were banished to earth, are they doing this now?.
if not, what is stopping them?.
if so, where are all these half angel children?.
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caroline77
Thanks for your answers.
This leads me to another linked question about bodies and spirits.
JW's have told me that Jesus gave up his earthly body when he died.
But after his death he disappeared from the tomb, and later was seen and felt by the disciples and some women. They confirmed that it was him, as he showed them the injuries he sustained in his body during his dying hours.
He also ate and drank with them to show them that he was alive and well.
I was told that his mortal body disintegrated and that angels can't eat. It seems to me that the JW's believe that the angels lied when they said that Jesus had risen from death, and that his body was done away with to make the lie easier to swallow.
I have never had an explanation of why they believe what they do, though I have asked many times.
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angels and women
by caroline77 ini was told by jw's that angels came down to earth before the flood, and had children with women.. i have a question about this and would like the sort of answer a jw would give so that i can be ready for them when they come to my door.. if one third of god's angelic staff were banished to earth, are they doing this now?.
if not, what is stopping them?.
if so, where are all these half angel children?.
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caroline77
Thanks for all of your answers. I find this subject fascinating.
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144,000 are only born again disproved by 1 verse.
by yogosans14 in1 john 5:1 says everyone (not just special people) but everyone who believes that jesus is the son of god is born of god.
born of god is the same thing as born again.
the jw theology is so easy to refute i dont see how anyone can read the whole nt and still be one..
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caroline77
I agree, yogosans14. There are many similar verses.
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angels and women
by caroline77 ini was told by jw's that angels came down to earth before the flood, and had children with women.. i have a question about this and would like the sort of answer a jw would give so that i can be ready for them when they come to my door.. if one third of god's angelic staff were banished to earth, are they doing this now?.
if not, what is stopping them?.
if so, where are all these half angel children?.
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caroline77
Thanks for the very useful link, Fernando.
A WAR IN HEAVEN
4 The preceding chapter in this book explained that Jesus Christ became King in heaven in the year 1914 . (Daniel 7:13, 14) Soon after he received Kingdom power, Jesus took action. “War broke out in heaven,” says the Bible. “Michael [another name for Jesus] and his angels battled with the dragon [Satan the Devil], and the dragon and its angels battled.”* Satan and his wicked angels , the demons, lost that war and were cast out of heaven to the earth. God’s faithful spirit sons rejoiced that Satan and his demons were gone. Humans, however, would experience no such joy. Instead, the Bible foretold: “Woe for the earth . . . because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”—Revelation 12:7, 9, 12.
No-one has actually answered my question, which is: What is to stop these wicked angels doing what JW's believe that angels did before the flood, and why send them here?
This is interesting, because you were all experienced JW's and so I expect to get a similar result when I get the opportunity to ask JW's the same question at my door.
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angels and women
by caroline77 ini was told by jw's that angels came down to earth before the flood, and had children with women.. i have a question about this and would like the sort of answer a jw would give so that i can be ready for them when they come to my door.. if one third of god's angelic staff were banished to earth, are they doing this now?.
if not, what is stopping them?.
if so, where are all these half angel children?.
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caroline77
Bart, Thanks for your reply.
So the answer to you question is that a JW will say that there are no fallen angels on the earth, because the event happen before the Flood and the demon offenders are locked in Tartarus, end of debate.
The ones who supposedly cohabited with women were before the flood, but what about the ones who were involved in the 'war in heaven' in Revelation 12? I was told that they came to earth in 1914. What is to stop them from doing the same thing if they are bad? And why send them here?