Posts by LaFrancia

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

LaFrancia

Even in southern Europe the renovation work on some kingdom halls has been postponed. I don't know the real reason. If it happens in other countries then it could be a directive from Warwick. Know that right now they have made a very large settlement in Montana and this opens the door to other payments to close the cases.

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New Bethel in Bologna (It.)

by LaFrancia in

the new bethel is in bologna city.

rome be for sale.

the new bethel not ready until 2020.

LaFrancia

This is proof that the Lord blessed the Municipality of Bologna instead of the Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses ....:-)))

Jehovah's Witnesses will carry out, as part of this agreement, 3.1 million euros in public works which they will give to the Municipality of Bologna! The cleanup of the old property will be the responsibility of the JWs

https://www.comune.bologna.it/notizie/ex-sabiem-rigenerazione-

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Have 3 buildings disappeared from the new Italian Bethel under construction since 2019? What happened to them?

by LaFrancia in

if anyone knows more, a comment is welcome.

if you visit the official jw website and search for bologna it will take you to some articles and 1 video.

the site shows a building completed in 2020 with 41 apartments, there is a photo with alleged bethelites looking out from the balconies and waving.

LaFrancia

The Municipality of Bologna got rid of 1 disused building and a former elevator factory that had been closed for many years. Did Jehovah bless them instead of Italian JWs?

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New Bethel in Bologna (It.)

by LaFrancia in

the new bethel is in bologna city.

rome be for sale.

the new bethel not ready until 2020.

LaFrancia

Many years have passed and this story of the new Italian Bethel continues......... God blesses the Municipality of Bologna which managed to get rid of two problem areas by selling to the JWs.

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Have 3 buildings disappeared from the new Italian Bethel under construction since 2019? What happened to them?

by LaFrancia in

if anyone knows more, a comment is welcome.

if you visit the official jw website and search for bologna it will take you to some articles and 1 video.

the site shows a building completed in 2020 with 41 apartments, there is a photo with alleged bethelites looking out from the balconies and waving.

LaFrancia

If anyone knows more, a comment is welcome. If you visit the official JW website and search for Bologna it will take you to some articles and 1 video. The site shows a building completed in 2020 with 41 apartments, there is a photo with alleged Bethelites looking out from the balconies and waving. Where have you been ?

They were also completing other similar buildings. It is said that the apartments were greater than the number of Italian Bethelites which are around 300. In 2020 the site stated that thanks to Divine blessing the new Bethel would be ready in 2023.

In another video, Brother Andreotti of the Italian Branch Committee says that thanks to Divine blessing the new Bethel would be completed in 2024 and sooner than they expected!

We are more than halfway through 2024, construction sites seem to be at a standstill in Bologna. The buildings disappeared from the radar. What are they telling us? Have they sold the buildings? Did they rent the apartments?

P.s. In Bologna, mini apartments are selling like hot cakes. Many university students are looking for and want this type of accommodation!

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They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

by LaFrancia in

from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

LaFrancia

In the book by former GB member Franz, there are details about why his uncle F.W. Franz stopped the printing of the book. He did not agree with the explanation of James 5 which states that when a sick brother was urged to call the elders Ed Dunlap applied it to the literal illness, but his uncle did not agree (but the book had already been approved by the GB , a sign that they do not always read the material they approve) and not to a hypothetical spiritual illness. Anyone who has his books could cite the exact pages where it is written, I'll try to look for them around too

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They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

by LaFrancia in

from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

LaFrancia

Let me clarify:

1- the 3 paragraphs were not written by me.

2- A former jw Reddit user posted them on Reddit

3- A user copied and translated them into a European language and now they are on a non-English European blog

4- I copied from this blog and translated with Google Translator, but it was already a translation from English

5- The user on Reddit deleted the message so there is no way to compare if it is translated correctly

6- We shouldn't trust everything that appears on the internet, but it was right to publish it for information.

7- In update 2 the brother of the governing body said that there would be a series of articles on the topic of disfellowshipping, I find it very credible that these 3 paragraphs made known by an anonymous user are from W August 2024 perhaps precisely the reason why There is a delay due to discord among the members of the GB.

8- There have already been cases in which members of the GB in the past have stopped the publication of already approved magazines and books. One is the book of James by Ed Dunlop which had been printed in thousands of copies then F. Franz intervened to stop printing and modify some parts, see his nephew's book. Another case is recounted by Barbara Anderson when Jaracz tried to stop the printing of a CSA-themed magazine but another GB member stopped him.

Having said that, let's wait and see, in one or two months we will know if these 3 paragraphs will be part of this magazine W...:-)))

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The August Study Watchtower: what is the big deal?

by ukpimo in

i have been following a number of posts discussing the august watchtower study magazine.

i really don't believe this common idea being passed around that it's being timed for the annual meeting.

here's why.. the august watchtower will be available on servers not long before its public release.

LaFrancia

I can imagine that these 3 paragraphs have created a lot of discussion within the Governing Body, some may not agree with this for fear that many PIMOs may leave without the consequences of ostracism, while others more liberal may be very supportive.

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They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

by LaFrancia in

from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

LaFrancia

FFGhost

The Twelve is an expression used in the New World translation. You can read the verses cited. John 6:66-70
Grace is a wrong translation from Google

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The August Study Watchtower: what is the big deal?

by ukpimo in

i have been following a number of posts discussing the august watchtower study magazine.

i really don't believe this common idea being passed around that it's being timed for the annual meeting.

here's why.. the august watchtower will be available on servers not long before its public release.

LaFrancia

It seems but I cannot say with 100% certainty that the W August 2024 also deals with the topic of dissociation. 3 paragraphs of this magazine were published by someone and are the following:

Understanding dissociation in light of the Scriptures

3 What about those who decide to write a letter disassociating themselves from the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses? It is critical to distinguish between disfellowshipped individuals, who are removed from the congregation due to unrepentant transgressions, and those who voluntarily disassociate. 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 clearly states, “But now I write to you, do not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but… This counsel is specifically addressed to those within the congregation who persist in committing serious sins without repent. However, those who dissociate no longer identify themselves as brothers or sisters in the faith. They have made a personal choice to depart, which is different from being removed for moral misconduct. Therefore, the strict exclusion applied to unrepentant offenders does not apply directly to them.

4 Respect for religious freedom is a principle supported throughout the Bible, which emphasizes the importance of individual choice in matters of faith. Jesus himself demonstrated this respect when he allowed the rich young ruler to leave instead of forcing him to follow him (Matthew 19:16-23). Furthermore, when many disciples chose to leave, Jesus asked the Twelve, "You don't want to leave too, do you?" (John 6:66-70), showing his respect for their freedom of choice. This respect for personal choice is echoed in Galatians 5:13, which states, “You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free.” These examples illustrate that Jehovah and his son Jesus value individual choice in serving him.

5 When someone dissociates, they are no longer considered part of Jehovah's Witnesses, thus becoming part of the world. Jesus' teachings provide clear guidance on how to deal with those who are not part of Jehovah's organization. In Matthew 5.44-48, Jesus teaches to "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you", emphasizing that Christian love should extend beyond the community of believers. However, it is important to remember that if a dissociated person becomes an apostate, actively opposing the faith, he or she should be treated as one who spreads false teachings. Jude 1:4

Questions to consider

3. How does 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 help us understand the distinction between disfellowshiped people and those who voluntarily disassociate themselves?

4. What are the biblical principles that respect individual religious freedom?

5. In what ways should Christians interact with dissociated apostates?