Posts by KateWild

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I'm not gay, but

by FL_Panthers in

you ever seen a guy that you thought, " i'm not gay but hey!

i like the cut of his jib"?.

well here's the: blokes i'd like to "yenz" thread.

KateWild

I have met gay men who were married & had kids- Heartofaboy

To be clear you mean gay men who married striaght women and had sex with their wives to have kids. We have to be clear, I know it's recent but in a lot of the world now gay men can marry gay men and adopt kids, for years they could have been common law partners, but now they can marry.

When some gay youths talk about getting married and having kids, they automatically mean in a homosexual relationship. I have had this conversation with a young lad.

I think it's great to see this progress in society and equality for gay couples.

Heartofaboy, Sorry to get on my soapbox I meant no disrespect and I don't mean to get picky. I just wanted to make a little point, I am very opinionated aren't I? Kate xx

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Advice not worth 2 farts

by bobld in

jw
friends

what i am talking about is the march 15,2014 wt articles on aged and care for the elderly.i mean no disrepect to farts.actually farts are beneficial however,the resultant gawful smell stinks to high heaven.. ask these aged and elderly ones today what advice did they get in the sixies.did they receive any financial planning,pre-retirement advice,plan for medical costs,tax accountancy,debt recovery banking,etc..or you will never get old,no need for education,don't have childern the end is near.now they say the childern(which they weren't to have) have the responsilibity to take care of the elderly.. their advice is more like the resultant of a fart..

KateWild

Use the WTBTS's financial assets to take care of the elderly members of the "congregation"?!?!?!-DD

Lol! Yeah wouldn't it be great if all JW pensioners worldwide got to retire in accomodations like Warwick, the site in Wales, and some of the premier properties in London. What do you think this is, some kind of charity? Not even all bethelites will retire in luxury comparable to any of these accomodations.

Well we can all dream that WT will actually be shamed into acting like a charity, and become charitable to it's long serving pensioners. We need to be realistic though it's a cult all about the money and the power.

Kate xx

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Advice not worth 2 farts

by bobld in

jw
friends

what i am talking about is the march 15,2014 wt articles on aged and care for the elderly.i mean no disrepect to farts.actually farts are beneficial however,the resultant gawful smell stinks to high heaven.. ask these aged and elderly ones today what advice did they get in the sixies.did they receive any financial planning,pre-retirement advice,plan for medical costs,tax accountancy,debt recovery banking,etc..or you will never get old,no need for education,don't have childern the end is near.now they say the childern(which they weren't to have) have the responsilibity to take care of the elderly.. their advice is more like the resultant of a fart..

KateWild

bobld,

This is what I found sad about CoC. Ray mentioned he had regrets about not having children to take care of his wife after he was gone. Children are the most rewarding things in life. We went out this week and my daughter insisted on paying. I have a higher disposable income than her, her car insurance is crippiling, so I don't like to take advantage, but letting her pay sometimes is nice for us both. She feesl responsible and generous, and I feel appreciated.

In 2014, when a WT is telling children what their responsibilities are, they are lying as many in WT don't have children. So sad, hypocrites!

Kate xx

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Midday Vent

by mrhhome in

jw
friends

i know that this is a statement of the obvious, but i am wasting my time trying to have an honest discussion with my in-law witnesses.. it is absolutely amazing.

they are otherwise intelligent, rational, honest people.

however if you get remotely close to a subject that requires that they evaluate their beliefs or challenge the witness policy, they will repeatedly dodge it, twist it, or otherwise ignore it.

KateWild

I am beginning to question whether it is even a conscious process or if it has become subconscious.-mrhhome

I agree with you, for many it's automatic responses. They don't realise they are not thinking for themselves. Many JWs are too worn out to do some kind of independent research, they are tied up doing their rituals. This is how the cult works. It normally takes a personal situation to cause a JW to think for themselves, and even then due to lack of education some are unable to see the reality. TTATT.

Keep going though you never know one day they may wake up.

Kate xx

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Musings on recent things

by thedog1 in

just some thoughts on all the recent things going on.

i'm still recovering from the whole donation arrangement thing.

was speaking to some relatives who are also jw's and they don't really get what is going on but sense in some way that things are not right.

KateWild

it'd be great to have someone to talk to...-DHOH

Hero,

It might be lonely trapped in your cong knowing TTATT, but you have us to talk to. You are a cool, funny guy. We are here for you to help you through this.

Kate xx

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Musings on recent things

by thedog1 in

just some thoughts on all the recent things going on.

i'm still recovering from the whole donation arrangement thing.

was speaking to some relatives who are also jw's and they don't really get what is going on but sense in some way that things are not right.

KateWild

But this ducking and diving is a bit stressful to say the least.-thedog1

Hi thedog1, Thanks for keeping us in the loop. It sounds like you have a bad case of CD. You are one of the good elders, but you are banging your head against a brick wall trying to change things in WT that are wrong. Those missionaries are hypocrites and I can tell you want them to abandon their assignment to care for their parents. I know that's what I would do.

You know that 1914 is wrong, and you have read some if not all of CoC. So you are in a really stressful position now. As a good man you cannot continue like this, your life has changed because you had too many questions and you got answers. You are no longer the JW you were for years and years.

We have a loved one trapped in the WT, and me and my daughter were talking about her. She is in her 60s and lost many family members in death. She is delluded and living a fake life. She is lonely I see her often sitting alone in McDonald's when once she was surrounded by friends and family. My daughter and I concluded, this life now is the best thing for her she knows no different and she thinks she is doing good and helping others. She thinks she is doing a valuable work. To let her outlive the rest of her life in ignorance is a kindness. When I see her I greet her and tell her I love her. She inturn greets me in a clandestine manner, and is probably praying I will return.

I don't want her to give her money to the GB, but she will continue to donate as she is happy doing so. thedog1, you have read all 4 pages of the new donation arrangement, you know it is soliciting for funds and you know WT only lend money to congs for building KHs not give them the money.

You know too much and you can't unknow it and live in bliss. You need to formulate an exit plan to reduce your stress levels or you will make yourself ill and that won't be good for your wife. Trust your wife, and trust the strength of your relationship.

I mentioned Menloe Park to her the other day and she said 'where did you read that, on an apostate website?' That stunned me but she must be getting a vibe from some of our recent conversations.-thedog1

This is good you are being more open with her. Talk about some things you have read in CoC as well. Everything will be okay, there is much hope that you will end up on the same page in time.

I sincerly wish you all the best. Keep us informed. Take care

Kate xx

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Did you miss me?

by Hortensia in

went to montana, had a really good time.

flew there, drove back with a friend.

was gone eight days.

KateWild

Welcome back,

Sounds like a great trip. Glad to have you back. Kate xx

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I dont think we should past judgement on people who post here for the first time

by smiddy in

jw
friends

just saying , my 2 cents worth .

if they have an agenda it will be revealed in a short time , let them play it out .. however , some genuine first posters can be put off by somebody jumping the gun and attacking them .. please give the first posters time to get to know this site.. smiddy.

KateWild

Smiddy,

I totally get what you're saying. But your point is falling on deaf ears. Many who post here come here for support and want to support others. But there are the odd few that are in fact bitter. There are only a few though and most new posters expect this. I remember when I first came here I was scared to post as I had read some blunt posts and did not want to be attacked.

I couldn't avoid it though, there will always be agressive posters. But what I did get was PMs warning me of agressive posters and encouragement from concerned posters.

What we need to also consider is the age of first time posters, we have recently had two newbie teenagers. 15yrs and 14 yrs. I was atonished at some of the material posted to these children, as I have children of my own.

I want to contribute to make this site a safe haven, but I know of one poster atm in particular who won't pay attention to your thread. Good for you for trying though Smiddy, I totally agree with what you're saying. Also I'd like to thank you for all your support since I have come to JWN.

Kate xx

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£1m for a house in Wales - that's nothing compared to £16m in Barnet

by PaulWrightson72 in

the ibsa spent 6m buying two plots of land near wt house and spent another 10m on building and fitting out the flats.

since there are only 15 flats there, that works out at over 1m/flat - and these are 2 bedroom flats only.

similar flats nearby are marketed to the very top of the market.

KateWild

Hi Paul,

Welcome to JWN. Thank you for this info. Very interesting indeed. The WT are all about power and money. They are a property developer as well as a publishing company. Thanks for the evidence. Kate xx

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I'm not gay, but

by FL_Panthers in

you ever seen a guy that you thought, " i'm not gay but hey!

i like the cut of his jib"?.

well here's the: blokes i'd like to "yenz" thread.

KateWild

I think everyone admires people from the same sex. We want to look good ourselves and observing how others dress and style their hair is natural, it does not mean we are gay and we want to have sex with them.

Kate xx