Posts by KateWild

609

What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

KateWild

Yes, but again that is a metaphor.-cofty

I see your point but it's also an English definition of magic too. As opposed to wizardry, soucery and the supernatural.

BRITISH informal wonderful; exciting. "it was a great time, magic"

synonyms:

fascinating, captivating, charming, glamorous, magical, enchanting,entrancing, spellbinding, magnetic, irresistible, hypnotic More

Even though we can explain it, it doesn't mean that the spirit is not the animating force in living things. I suppose it all depends on perspective though. I also appreciate that we need to keep grounded and not go all woooo to our own detriment.

Kate xx

15

Sorry posters JWs leaders will not "change" 1914 or 144,000 "literal to figurative "doctrine

by booker-t in

jw
friends

i actually called bethel a few weeks ago and i was shocked that i actually got thru to the writing dept.

i was abit nervous but i asked the jw writer if there was going to be a change in doctrine.

i thought he was going to immediately hang up on me thinking "apostate caller" but he was actually nice and we talked for a while.

KateWild

Island man,

You took the words out of my mouth. I appreciate the sentiment, but you are never going to get a straight answer from the writing dept at Bethel.

Kate xx

609

What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

KateWild

There is no elan vital. Life is a process, no magic required.-cofty

Your opinion, whilst I respect it, is very clinical. There is passion and enthusiam with understanding the processess of life. This is what spirit is if we understand it even better. Of course it's magic cofty. You have kids, did you not feel the magic the day they born, accmplished things you were proud of?

When you say things are not vital or reqired, it does not mean they don't exist. I am not talking about magic that is fantasy and breaks the laws of physics.

But to be fair we are getting into semantics again. I totally see your perspective and I understand why you draw these conclusions. I also understand that you have regrets about being a born again and you humbly want to protect others from having the same regrets. If I am honest, if it wasn't for you I would have probably joined another high control group trying to search for the "real truth". Thank you for your input on this board.

Kate xx

25

Something NEW is happening with Jehovah's Witnesses on the internet

by Watchtower-Free in

dramatic growth is being reported on facebook.

groups of xjws.. .

ex-jehovah's witness recovery group 3 admin.

KateWild

Good find thanks for the info. Kate xx

609

What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

KateWild

Believers get irritated if you point this out-cofty

LOL! a bit of a sweeping generalisation there. A lot of believers don't bother with Athiest vs God threads, especially if they think they are being baited. Personally I don't mind being baited, it's all in good fun cofty

You are correct though, I disagree that my definition of spirit "the animating force within living things" is a metaphor. I disagree that it should be dismissed as being no closer to an answer, it's a very acceptable answer for me. It satisfies my curiosity.

Kate xx

44

New Financial Arrangements

by Joe Grundy in

dear friends.

i never was a dub.

i am not a qualified lawyer or accountant.

KateWild

Joe,

Thanks for your thread and your interest. What is needed is full transparency. The fact there is none leads us to believe a full audit will uncover fraud. Is there a way, the authorities can do a financial audit if they supect fraud?

It would be good if you could help us in this.

Kate xx

67

A Thread for Cyclists - Where Do you Ride?

by cofty in

i took up cycing a couple of months ago just to get fitter and lose a bit of excess weight.. i bought a second-hand hybrid bike (weighs only slightly less than a truck) and fitted road tyres.

four or five times a week i will go for a ride after work for an hour or so.

i am fortunate enough to live in rural north england surrounded by limitless quiet roads.

KateWild

Good OP cofty. Good for you and a fine example. I used to cycle 14 miles a day to uni. I remember the days. Kate xx

20

Is WT guided by holy Spirit? Trolley witnessing. What's your experience?

by KateWild in

i was out trolley witnessing today.

i specifically wanted to ask jws about holy spirit, and how it guides them.. i had someone with me as usual, so jws had to be polite and answer my questions.

as we approached the trolley, an elder from my kh was there, just recently moved in.

KateWild

Hey Bigmac, thanks for reading the OP. Looking forward to your next experience. Kate xx

23

Troll Accusations

by Frazzled UBM in

i have noticed that some of us are a bit too eager to label new posters as trolls.

while it is clear that there are some posters who just like to stir up trouble or are out and out apologists there are others who are witnesses starting to have genuine doubts and so ask questions but then when they see the responses the cognitive dissonance kicks in and they push back and argue with what they are being told.

this can lead to very negative reactions from jwn members and accusations that the person is a troll.

KateWild

Fraz, great OP.

As Da.furious said we have met Panthers in person. I like him and I understand why he posts the way he does. He has a unique personality. We all have negaitive traits from WT in our personality we were all damaged in some way, so give him the benefit of the doubt.

Pathers, safe journey home it was lovely to meet you mister.

Kate xx

43

800 Infant Bodies Found in a Septic Tank at Roman Catholic Children's Home

by cofty in

796 infant skeletons have been found discarded in a septic tank at the former mother and baby home run by the catholic church in ireland between 1925 and 1961.. unwed mothers were sent these "magdelene asylums" to be treated like criminals.

their babies - if they survived - were taken from them.

if they did not survive their bodies were thrown into a septic tank and forgotton.

KateWild

This is awful so many died. The care must have been inadequate, and likely abusive resulting in deaths. I suspect foul play without a doubt.

20th century Ireland is a testimony to what happens when religion is given secular power.-cofty

Yes sad but true, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts abusolutely. Even in non religious organisations, such as police and social services, especially if there is no regulating body to deal with complaints properly.

Kate xx