By way of review to keep on topic..................................
I conclude science cannot prove or disprove God.
Cofty and Phizzy say science can but have provided no examples yet. Cofty? Phizzy?
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
By way of review to keep on topic..................................
I conclude science cannot prove or disprove God.
Cofty and Phizzy say science can but have provided no examples yet. Cofty? Phizzy?
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Show where his scientific work is biased, please.-Viv
It's off topic, start a thread and I will be happy to join in. What are your motives for joining in this thread anyway?
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Then, if you give them a pre-universe inch, watch 'em fastforward to tell you all about this "god".-Phizzy
That's simply no the case with me, chemistry is my discipline so I started the whole conversation with enantiomers and we're still here. In nature a homochiral mixture forms that is found in all living things. But a racemic mixture forms in the lab.
You still haven't answered my question either phizzy, you said you will quote impeccable sources to prove God does not exist I am still waiting mister.
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
I am currently reading Lawrence Krauss' "A Universe From Nothing". It's fascinating how he dismantles the very last refuge of the god-of-the-gaps.-cofty
Krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist. His science is biased. I am not filling in the gaps. As far as Powners work is concerned I want to follow him in finding the origin of life, and see how he works from a chemistry perspective.
I conclude that science cannot prove or disprove God, but you insist it can disprove God exists. Cofty what scientific fact proves God does not exist?
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Why do you feel the need to insert a creator pre-LUCA but not post-LUCA?-cofty
You're dodging my question now by asking me a new question, that'a naughty cofty. How does Soai prove there is no God?
Its bucket chemistry as Saoi demonstrated.-cofty
Specifically how did he demonstrate this? The term "bucket chemistry" is not used in peer reviewed papers mister. But I will play. Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
I see life as the result of the particular properties that the universe took on.- OneEyedJoe
This is a wonderful perspective and many evolutionary biologists have the same perspective, and then there are scientists who have the same perspective as me. I think we need to live together learning to accept one anther's perspectives. But I am still fuelled to make enquiries and find satisfying proof I am wrong about the existence of a Creator.
Kate xx
this is quite embarrassing for me to share, but as a 30+ year old single female i have lingering doubts as to whether i can still meet a decent man and get married.. you all know how difficult it is for sisters to find an appropriate partner in the congregation.. and now, all the more so that i've learned ttatt.
i still am bound by low self-esteem, and i do have trust issues, especially with men.
i am very lonely and so i just keep myself busy with work to avoid depression (although it is also a great source of stress).. any other single females out there having similar thoughts?.
How are you coping?- OND
Hey, I am single and 40. I don't know if I want to meet someone yet, but I would in the future. I am not really lonely, I miss my son terribly and have felt isolated, but JWN keeps me busy, I have made some nice friends on the board and been to meetups.
That's how I've been coping. I am different from you because I am divorced and have kids, so the need I had for family has been satisfied. My kids are great and a big part of my life in different ways. Now I am single I enjoy my singleness at JWN meetups.
I am on FB groups too in the UK. Are you in the UK?
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Which is correct ? Is it not therefore possible both are wrong as there is no proof to substantiate either.- galaxie
Hey galaxie,
Good point, I was actually with my friend today who is an evangellical, she had a vision of God. I believe she did and it was a psychotic episode. The proof was her doctor diagnosed her with schizophrenia. She has had no more visions since then, a number of years ago.
We were also talking about the bible being from God. I showed her my evidence for what I believed and she showed me hers. Good for another thread. But she is right in her eyes and I am right in mine, we had a lovely time too. No harm done.
I suppose it's not about proving things to others it's about getting satisfying proof for ourselves. So I am satisfied I have enough proof there is a creator, and I am satisfied that science does not prove that no creator exists, when it can I will change my belief.
If you want to tell me how the Soai reaction proves God does not exist, fire away I am listening.
Kate xx
i was baptized in 1968. last meeting 2010. i have to say i was never 100% in.
there were times i absolutely believed, but i never really gave it my all.
never liked service, assemblies, meetings.
100% until I was DF'd unjustly and questioned HS on my JC. Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
It's quite possible, but you are publicly making the claim. Hence, it is entirely reasonable to question and comment upon it.-Viv
Sorry you've lost me, what claim? What reasonable question?
Apologies Viv you'll have to be a little more specific. Kate xx