This is misleading. It turned out that it is flat.-cofty
Hahahaha for now. they could change their minds again. How about the earth? It was flat first and then spherical. But to an ant the earth is flatKate xx
krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.
hence his science is biased.
being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.
This is misleading. It turned out that it is flat.-cofty
Hahahaha for now. they could change their minds again. How about the earth? It was flat first and then spherical. But to an ant the earth is flatKate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Resorting to god-did-it is what people do who don't want a real answer.-cofty
What's the real answer then cofty?
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
What do you consider making a claim if it's not "I think X because of reasons Y and Z"? You just made three incorrect claims about me, one of what I need, one of what I understand and one my emotional state, all ignorant of actual information. - Viv
hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! There you go again mister. Off topic remarks. I have not made claims I have given you my opinion about you since you don't want to tell me your true motives. You whole post is like a firring squad of stupid questions merely designed as an attack. It's an example of you being confrontational and aggressive in a way that I find unhelpful to most posters here. You are being willfully ignorant of my perspective just to try an annoy me on purpose.
It's Friday night here in the UK I have better things to do than play on my computer with you Viv. I did have some fun though we could have some real fun if I come and visit you in Texas mister Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Grasping at straws.-cofty
Lol!!! perhaps for you. Hence my conclusion. It's all a matter of perspective cofty. I listened to Krauss BTW, not bad. Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Would you please explain, what is a "creator" for you? Exactly what difference or how important this "creator" is?-MG
The Creator is a deity responsible for the creation of the world, cosmos and universe. Important to me becase I like to know how things work and believing a creator is responsible fuels my enquirey that one day I might get some concrete proof either way of his existence. But for now I believe until I am proved otherwise.
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Great on sunday afternoons usually live music and london old fashioned charm.-galaxie
Are you in London too, are you going to come for a meetup?
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Viv,
In my opinion having a conclusion, is not making a claim, having a belief is not making a claim. I have expressed multiple times that the evidence is soley for me not proof to anyone else. But I can understand why you can't grasp any of what I am saying, you need concrete facts to satisfy your curiosity and you get irritated when you don't have any concrete proof.
I on the other hand have the ability to make higher order abstractions and that's part of my thinking process. To understand this you have to think out of the box Viv. Hydrogen bonds should not be possible in nature, but they are there, hydrogen and oxygen do not bond like this in organic molecules. This is an example of a guided process to me, but perhaps not to another chemical analyst. I am satisfied this process is guided by God, other chemical analysts may not be. They may think it's a natural process.
So in conclusion science in the case of hydrogen bonds proves nothing as reagrds to the existence of God
Kate xx
when i first started going on "other" jw websites my head was spinning so i didn't say anything to my kids about what i had read.
steve hassan's material helped a lot it was when i read that, that i realised i need to free my kids.. i got a lot of advice from jwn too.. my daughter had moved cities and went to the hall we used to visit frequently.
things changed when she became a member instead of just a visitor.
KM,
It's good that his dad is not harline about your son's associations. You might be surprised but hubby might actually be open to TTATT, just small things at first though. Maybe beards or somehting that he will benefit from if it wasn't a rule.
As far as your son is concerned, l hope he gets to go to prom. Some JWs here in the UK went to theirs, one was even prom queen!!!!
Kate xx
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Viv, spamming again. I have answered your question already. I haven't actually made any claims. Are you entirely sure you have read all my posts on this thread? Is it possible you could have missed my explaination of my perspective?
i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.
however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.
i am interested in your views as to his credibility.
Viv, just hang on. I have a PM. I'll be back in a sec xxxx