Posts by KateWild

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Advice about going to Meetings...................oh why didn't I listen...LOL!!!!!

by KateWild in

i have been back to meetings for a month now.

prepared for them all except for when i went on holiday.. todays wt is about jehovah's organisation, it's clear loaded language and manipulation through fear.

i am not perturbed by it in the least.

KateWild

Why don't you tell the doctor about this situation?-DS

Good idea, I have escalated the complaint through the proper channels. Her rudenss caused my ASD to worsen, this is unacceptable. Kate xx

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Advice about going to Meetings...................oh why didn't I listen...LOL!!!!!

by KateWild in

i have been back to meetings for a month now.

prepared for them all except for when i went on holiday.. todays wt is about jehovah's organisation, it's clear loaded language and manipulation through fear.

i am not perturbed by it in the least.

KateWild

Seeking to be actively shunned makes no sense.- losingit

Exactly, while I was at the meetings I showed my two loved ones I was prepared to be shunned as they were not shunning me. One will shun me now I have stopped going. The other one works for me and cares about me too, so there will be no shunning.

I don't accept I should be shunned in public and will not conform to the shunning policy. Plus I was unjustly DF'd, I commited no willful sin.

Kate xx

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Advice about going to Meetings...................oh why didn't I listen...LOL!!!!!

by KateWild in

i have been back to meetings for a month now.

prepared for them all except for when i went on holiday.. todays wt is about jehovah's organisation, it's clear loaded language and manipulation through fear.

i am not perturbed by it in the least.

KateWild

I have been back to meetings for a month now. Prepared for them all except for when I went on holiday.

Todays WT is about Jehovah's organisation, it's clear loaded language and manipulation through fear. I am not perturbed by it in the least. My two closest loved ones are not reading it properly hence are not really getting fully indoctrinated. So the process of trying to get them to see things from my perspective is working.

Something happened in the Doctors though...........the COBE wife works at my new doctors, moving is good to make a fresh start. But all my confidential matters are at risk of being violated. I was actually unsettled about this and approached her to find out what days she was off so I could avoid her. She refused to tell me and treated me dissmissivley and rudely. If I am trying to get RI'd I can't do anything about this unprofessional behaviour and I have to play by their rules.

Well as anyone who knows me well, I am not a WT rule player. I have escalated a complaint for her exasperating my ASD condition within the surgery. So there is no point in me going to meetings anymore. Yes I missed this morning and I am not going to anymore meetings. I will simply not tolerate shunning when I visit my own doctors.

I can easily find out her days off if I go in daily for two weeks. But why should I????? I am not going to make the effort to comply with WT shunning. I will go in and make general chit chat about her personal life and he involvement as a JW, it will make her feel uncomfortable. It will only make her feel uncomfortable becuase she is bieng unkind with the shunning, if she was nice I would leave her alone and let it go.

I should have listened to everyone who advised me not to go back.

No big deal, it was only a few weeks.

I am an activist now, complaining about shunning, yehay!!!!!!

Kate xx

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Index of my Watchtower Doctrine Threads

by cofty in

i just wanted to put links to my watchtower threads all in the same place for my own benefit and future reference.. i wrote these 4 articles almost 20 years ago just after i left the watchtower and before i had encountered any ex-jw books or websites.

they were all based on original research of old wt publications and the nwt bible.. my explanation of why they got it wrong about blood using only the nwt.... i still think this line of reasoning is devastating to the blood doctrine.

i have yet to hear a rational response.. the gospel contrasted with the watchtower doctrine of the ransom.... i wrote this when i was an uber-evangelical.

KateWild

Thanks for the index cofty, I have read your letter when I looked you up, but the other threads look helpful also. I might read them on my lazy Sunday as I am not going to the meeting today. Hahaha! Kate xx

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Hello

by lurkernomore in

i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).

as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.

around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.

KateWild

Welcome to JWN lurkernomore,

Have you and your wife read Crisis of Conscience, by Ray Franz yet? Hope to hear your full story. Kate xx

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good news-- step one accomplished!

by losingit in

jw
friends

i just wanted to share the good news that wednesday was the last day of my summer teaching internship.

i had a great time with the kids-- they were ready to learn, be challenged and have fun.

and this was summer school!

KateWild

Looks like you have overcome your challenges, well done you are an inspiration. Congratulations. Kate xx

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thinking of leaving

by justme67 in

i am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.

i was doing ok until about a month ago.

we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.

KateWild

I know they wont speak to me after, but most hardly do anyway, away from the hall. I guess being a single brother and kind of new. -justme67

Hi Just, welcome to the board. It refreshing to see TTATT, the truth about the truth. We wish you all the best for the future, but stick around here to get friendship and support.

I am surprised a new single brother doesn't get more attention in the KH, normally they are a comodity. Sisters flock round them like bees around pollunating flowers, there must be a hand full of sisters your age that have been left on the shelf, I know in my hall there are a few, and in the circuit even more. But if you're making a move out you want to meet a girl out of WT too.

Kate xx

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What Would It Take To Prove......

by metatron in

jw
friends

a hypothetical question.. at a minimum, what evidence would it take to prove that the society is trying to quietly shed publishers?.

now, i don't think we have evidence of this yet but that doesn't mean it could never happen.

we must consider where the trends of magazine/literature cuts, branch office sales, coerced contributions, bethel/do layoffs, and emphasis on jw.org lead us.. otoh, you might argue that there would never be a deliberate move to get rid of them, just moves that discreetly abandon them.

KateWild

A watcher you have missed the point and gone off topic.

Good observation Metatron, they very well might be reducing numbers and DFing more easily and making the RI process more difficult. IMO personally I think it's because there are too many relishing in the power of being an elder, and enjoying causing misery to others.

Kate xx

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I realized I've been *hit on alot

by skeeter1 in

about a month ago, i realized that i didn't really care about my still-in jw family.

i just want to be left alone by them.

they caused me so much grief.

KateWild

Thank you for your experience, you don't seem resentful. You seem stable and made a decision not to be taken advantage of anymore. Keep your money for yourself and your kids. Kate xx

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

KateWild

We have 53 pioneers for Aug.....Kate xx