hey all,.
i was just thinking back to the first time i found this awesome forum...years before i eveni joined up and starting posting myself.. i was so encouraged and happy to see that i was not alone!
i was not the only one who was observing the org, and all of its aspects and thinking "seriously?
When I first came to this site it was a great. I could let off steam about WT articles and answer truthfully how I felt. It really filled a need.
I found some of the posters a bit harsh and blunt but got used to it. Some were a little wacky too.
But now it's a place for support and where I find I can support others too.
Kate xx
identical twin studies show there is a strong inheritable component to religiosity.
thomas bouchard studied identical and fraternal twins raised apart and tested them on religious attitudes.. the correlation for the former turned out to be 62% compared to just 2% for the latter.
his colleague.
Well I am not sure I actually believe this study. I was brought up by Jewish parents and went to a Jewish day school. My parents are agnostic and atheist. As a child I was very interested in God and religious education. My religious leaders and peers encouraged free thinking and exploring atheism during religious sessions.
My brother was not interested, but I was and have always had some type of faith although it has changed over the years.
To call people victims is derogatory cofty, and although I would not class myself as a theist, I am inclined to feel you are baiting some posters into a debate on a study that is not conclusive or recognised.
Some people are happy believing and are not harming anyone.
Kate xx
hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??
and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.
lol.
Kulotti,
It was really nice that you were bought groceries when you were sick. But they count it all as time. I genuinely cared when I was a JW and I still genuinely care.
You will have to suppress your personality and your true self if you ever get baptised. You will never have a partner unless you go straight.
It was the kindness that got me in too, but it was the lack of love that opened my eyes when I needed it most.
Thanks for reading all the advice
Kate xx
though we can easily dismiss many of jws teachings on many counts, the sad part is that we do not have any alternative.
1) 1) though some of the things bible said may have gone wrong (most of which would not even touch our day-to-day lives), the worst thing it foretold (which very much affects our day-today-lives) has come true: people will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world.
(luke 21:26).
I don't really know what point you're trying to make. Are you trying to discredit science with your calculations? If so your calculations are based on assumptions that have no proof.
I believe in god and in science. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Your post is not coherent abianther. What exactly is your point?
Kate xx
hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??
and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.
lol.
Kulotti79,
Welcome to the site. As you can see you have three pages worth of responses warning you about this cult. You did the right thing to find out some independent information about keeping records. But there is much more you can find out from independent sources such as jwsurvey.org and jwfacts.com.
I hope you take seriously what everyone has posted, keep us all updated.
Kate xx
for those of you that are into activism you may enjoy this special report video.
here's the description from the jwstruggle youtube channel:.
my buddy joel the unwitness recently went undercover at a kingdom hall, armed with a notebook, regular clothes, and an american standard bible.
I enjoyed watching the video. There were a few technical hitches that made the experience less enjoyable. I like'd the fact that he had 10-12 JWs listening to him discuss the NGO status of WT in the UN. He brought up other things too which was good.
I thought it was very calm and respectful the way he approached the brothers and he wasn't bitter and angry at individuals.
Kate xx
for those of you that are into activism you may enjoy this special report video.
here's the description from the jwstruggle youtube channel:.
my buddy joel the unwitness recently went undercover at a kingdom hall, armed with a notebook, regular clothes, and an american standard bible.
i have come to a startling and sad realisation!.
i have no real friends!.
i have always been extremely active in every aspect of the org, since childhood.
Well Stuck,
Sorry to hear you might be getting df'd. It is very isolating. All the positive advice you have got on this thread I have tried. Has it worked yet? Not for me.
I still live in hope but I don't have high expectations of getting a circle of true friends. Posters make it sound easy, but the harsh reality is, it takes time to build lasting friendships.
Take care Stuck
Kate xx
the saddest story ever told.
despite being childhood sweethearts, in the year 1941 they decided to postpone marriage and remain single and childless in this system so as to put the the theocracy first, albeit under the control of the watch tower society.. in the final pages of the children book john and eunice walk silently through the fields and stop by a great tree on the river bank where they had sometime before discussed their future plans.
the young lovers seat themselves down and look over the landscape.
I think more sisters stayed single for WT, I know of a few in my old cong. Very sad indeed.
Kate xx
so manipulaitve.
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http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.
Very manipulative. I really am disturbed by the way he talks about JWs being DF'd for apostasy and other brothers and sisters feel for them. Sinutko then goes on to say, "well you don't know all the facts". This is the big problem with shunning, no one ever knows the full facts it's all covered up.
This is why the internet is so therapeutic, people can tell their story, we can get the full picture and the more we do the more we realise others have the same story as us. In this way we get all the facts.
Kate xx
