i enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
I have been told from former/current members that it is an abusive and manipulative environment.-cofty
Really? No one has tried to intice me, I am faced with abuse from my ex on a daily basis, this forum is an escape for me. What exactly do the members find abusive and manipulative cofty?
Kate xx
i still find it strange that believers cannot get it in to their heads that atheism is not a belief, but theism is.
there cannot possibly be proof "for" the atheistic position as it is simply a position that says i see no proof for a god.. if someone says there are pink unicorns with purple spots and i say i have never seen any proof of their existence, i cannot offer proof of my "position", the onus is 100% upon the spotted unicorn guy to prove their existence to me.
simple.. where the frustration enters in for us non-unicornists is when the unicornists expect us to listen to inane arguments , non facts and plain nonsesnse and then go along with their delusion.
cofty,
What have I said that is dellusional?
Kate xx
i still find it strange that believers cannot get it in to their heads that atheism is not a belief, but theism is.
there cannot possibly be proof "for" the atheistic position as it is simply a position that says i see no proof for a god.. if someone says there are pink unicorns with purple spots and i say i have never seen any proof of their existence, i cannot offer proof of my "position", the onus is 100% upon the spotted unicorn guy to prove their existence to me.
simple.. where the frustration enters in for us non-unicornists is when the unicornists expect us to listen to inane arguments , non facts and plain nonsesnse and then go along with their delusion.
Adam,
Actual evidence? Where did my claim come from? voices? or a credible publication?
Kate xx
i still find it strange that believers cannot get it in to their heads that atheism is not a belief, but theism is.
there cannot possibly be proof "for" the atheistic position as it is simply a position that says i see no proof for a god.. if someone says there are pink unicorns with purple spots and i say i have never seen any proof of their existence, i cannot offer proof of my "position", the onus is 100% upon the spotted unicorn guy to prove their existence to me.
simple.. where the frustration enters in for us non-unicornists is when the unicornists expect us to listen to inane arguments , non facts and plain nonsesnse and then go along with their delusion.
Are you ok Adam? You are surrounded by lots of posters that believe in God, who claim being called dellusional is unaccepable. Kate xx
i still find it strange that believers cannot get it in to their heads that atheism is not a belief, but theism is.
there cannot possibly be proof "for" the atheistic position as it is simply a position that says i see no proof for a god.. if someone says there are pink unicorns with purple spots and i say i have never seen any proof of their existence, i cannot offer proof of my "position", the onus is 100% upon the spotted unicorn guy to prove their existence to me.
simple.. where the frustration enters in for us non-unicornists is when the unicornists expect us to listen to inane arguments , non facts and plain nonsesnse and then go along with their delusion.
Adam,
Was Einstein hullucinating when he had an auditory experience and exclaimed in public "Now I know there is a God in Heaven" This was in 1920 when he was 40/41 yrs?
What is your opinion Adam?
Kate xx
i still find it strange that believers cannot get it in to their heads that atheism is not a belief, but theism is.
there cannot possibly be proof "for" the atheistic position as it is simply a position that says i see no proof for a god.. if someone says there are pink unicorns with purple spots and i say i have never seen any proof of their existence, i cannot offer proof of my "position", the onus is 100% upon the spotted unicorn guy to prove their existence to me.
simple.. where the frustration enters in for us non-unicornists is when the unicornists expect us to listen to inane arguments , non facts and plain nonsesnse and then go along with their delusion.
DD-funny stuff Love Kate xx
i still find it strange that believers cannot get it in to their heads that atheism is not a belief, but theism is.
there cannot possibly be proof "for" the atheistic position as it is simply a position that says i see no proof for a god.. if someone says there are pink unicorns with purple spots and i say i have never seen any proof of their existence, i cannot offer proof of my "position", the onus is 100% upon the spotted unicorn guy to prove their existence to me.
simple.. where the frustration enters in for us non-unicornists is when the unicornists expect us to listen to inane arguments , non facts and plain nonsesnse and then go along with their delusion.
I was confident I wasn't deluded as a JW, but evidence suggests I probably was-Laika
For me I wasn't deluded, I was pointing out errors in policies and how they conflicted with the bible, and also bringing attention to hypocritical actions of some elders and pioneers.
So as a JW I was not deluded, I just didn't realise that many were, my loved ones are not though, they are trapped. They see the real problems and issues, but simply put they are trapped.
Love Kate xx
my father has been suffering from alzheimer's for a couple of years now.
my mother keeps referring to his hallucinations as demons.
i haven't been to the hall in a while, i've been fading for 20 years now, but i find this amazing!
It's not just her, there are others in her circle who feel the same way and agree with her when she talks about it.- Once Blind
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid some JWs are. They don't even read their own litterature on the topic. The strong personalities determine and shape the congregation, no matter how dumb and not in line with the WT their idea's are.
You are a good son, be there for them.
I am staring in amazement
Love Kate xx
hi friends,.
although i read the forum dayly, i rarely post.. but i had to tell you this!..
i have 3 children 2 boys and a beatiful girl... this is about my second boy.
Well what a happy ending. Thank you for that. Love Kate xx
he called me yesterday, as he does every once in a while out of the clear blue...just to chat.
that's the best part, it wasnt' a memorial invite or tragic news.. my parents only ring me about deaths or to say hi to my little ones and see that i still have a pulse, and i only ring them to speak to my sister (with down's syndrome, she doesn't have her own phone) and tell them i love them.. my youngest brother only called once as a sheparding visit upon becoming knighted, or eldered, whatever it's called.
and my other brother and i havent had contact in five years (which is kind of amazing, as he was always a daredevil rebel).. my older brother, though, warmed my heart by being a bad boy and calling me and texting photos.
I am happy for you he is not shunning you. It's so nice you had a nice chat with him. Love Kate xx
