i am the vine; you are the branches.
if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".
according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.
I got round it by saying I was annointed, those verses always troubled me and gave me CD. The elders told me I wasn't, the whole bible is nonsense anyway. Plenty of Chritians throughout the world believe they are anointed too.
Now I get round it by believing, there is no such thing as holy spirit or anointed.
Kate xx
I found it interesting to see the fall and rise of partakers too, and compare them to number of publishers. Thanks jwfacts.com for your hard work. Kate xx
well,according to my mother,lots of bible studies and newly interested ones because of the promotion of the website.
it is just growing,lol.. i have no clue.
it's funny their spin on things.
I am not attending anymore, but I don't think there is any growth in the KH. I think many are leaving. The GB are spinning the growth IMO. Kate xx
i am sorry for the title but today just took the cake.
after not going to the meetings since august and trying to sort through this with my family, my wife today told me she wants to separate because of our differences over being a witness or not.. this is ridiculous.
so i said- how can you separate from me when the religion you whole heartedly believe says you can only separate for 3 reasons- abuse, willful non-support, or stopping her from her meeting attendance, etc.
I am also so sorry your wife is doing this. It's terrible. This cult is responsible for splitting families. I have lost my family too because of thie cult and the mishandling of DV. I know what it feels like to get the raw end of the deal in a bad divorce. It's not easy, I won't pretend that it is. Keep us informed and we can provide support.
You never know her decision may not be final.
Kate xx
why did you become a jw, what particular teachings attracted you to 'the truth' ?.
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in my case (baptized at 20/21) it was the only religion i knew; my mom, her mom, and favorite sister were jw; and the teachings of no hellfire or immortal soul made sense to me.. .
I am a convert, I converted in my 20's. It wasn't a teaching that converted me it was the love bombing. I had an instant circle of friends that truly loved me for who I was. These dear friends became like family to me and were genuine to the core, some have died now. But my loved ones are the reason leaving is so painful and joining was so easy.
They didn't realise love bombing was a cult strategy, they are all genuine my close loved ones.
That's what got me in, and why I stayed for so long.
Kate xx
check out the new jan 2015 study wt, article, they offer themselves willingly.
they give examples of young and middle age brothers and sisters who are selling their dream homes, uprooting their lives, etc, to move to help w/ building branches, etc, and how they know it's only temporary but not worried about what happens when they send them home.
they then say will you put jah to the test and see if he won't open the flood gates of blessings for you.
What a property scam. WT just get as much free labour as they can, and there is always someone willing to fall for it. A generous soul who believes Jehovah will provide. So sad.
Kate xx
there seems to be several discussions about a new 10 hour pioneer arrangement that was susposedly announced at the 2014 annual meeting.. i even called a couple who usually get invited each year and they said that there was nothing like that mentioned.
they just mentioned the "new" stuff had to do with the jw tv thing, the language app, the changes regarding gog of magog, the talents, the virgins, etc.
but absolutely nothing about 10 hour pioneers.. rub a dub.
It would be good to know if this is true or not.- Kool Jo
I think it's true, I have seen it bandied about all over the place. It's a control mechanism and breeds competative behaviours that get members doing more. It seems like a cult strategy so it probably is true. Thankfully it's so stupid it will probably wake up many JWs too.
Kate xx
me i try my best but my spelling is bad and some times i get missunerstood...any funny exsperiences?.
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I think I am straight and to the point. If I disagree with a point I am not shy to communicate it. I also try and have two way communication with other posters. When I first started threads I used to answer everyone individually, but now I am trying to control my post count I don't always, but apologise instead.
I think interacting with other posters is important and that's how I communicate on JWN.
I agree with Apogs' point about grammar, punctuation and spelling. I try and make sure my written communications are something I am not ashamed of, and I find it difficult to respect a posters message when there are a lot of errors in the post. The odd typo doesn't really bother me though.
Kate xx
the new jw library app includes the kingdom interlinear.
just by looking up the scriptures at the meeting when i went, revealed the following "departures" from the other translations:.
rev 5:10 "over the earth" vs "upon the earth".
Anyone notice any similar departures from the greek?- aintenoughwiskey
I don't speak Greek, but aparantly the NNWT has got many such dicrepencies. They word the scriptures to fit their doctrines.
Kate xx
hi, had some strange things happen this week that have made me ponder what on earth is going on with the man made organisation.. 1/ while picking up some train tickets i was approached by a young man with an ipad of sorts who engaged me in a chap and then asked to show me a new website i asked what he was trying to sell or promote he assured me that he was selling nothing the website he showed me was jw.org so i quickly said so you are promoting an organisation with a brand name similar to how a christian would promote jesus and the bible he looked confused but then said yes, so i said that i thought that to be quite shamefull, he froze for a bit and didnt comment so i asked is this new symbol a trade mark of some marketting firm to which he said "no we are jehovahs witnesses" no one else was around so not sure of the "we" but anyway i said if god has given us the bible whats with a website that produces snippets out the bible with an opinion on the meaning he avoided the question and asked me what i believed in so i said my religions leeders dont let me discuss belief with anybody so i obey,listen to them and dont question he said "you have been blessed by j with a brain and freedom of thought to look and question" i said ok but i think its strange that you use a name for god thats perhaps made up by man, blindly follow and dont question a group of self appointed men as well as showing signs of idoatory to an organisation that has pushed jesus to one side, at this he suddenly he had to dash off.
2/ when out shopping i was apprehended by a group of people with a stand giving free literature and promoting the jw.org website so i had had to ask whats with this name change after all these years and are you a similar religion to the catholic church which led to a chat about how the catholic religion is false and how they wickedly have covered up sex abuse!
i didnt bite on this one but asked if birth control was banned in the jw.org religion a lady stepped forward and explained that it was cruel and not biblical to ban contreception i said i had been shown a bit in the bible that gives rise to this ban and she said they(catholic church) dont understand the bible and use it to control and miss inform people so i replied similar to how your organisation bans blood and birthdays by misinterpreting the bible i went on to say that i believe the organisation to be hypocritical,false , cult like and shamefull how it covers up sex abuse i also got in that the organisation had totally corrupted its self with its un membership and also with the sheer amount of false prophecy over its relatively short history at which the senior man at the table politely told me if i wasnt interested in the literature to be on my way and that hopefully i would mature enough to let jehovah into my heart before it was to late and that he felt sorry for me and the people i obviously associated with.
I had a go at reading your post. Thank you for sharing your experiences. You had an interesting discussion with the JWs well done. Let us know how your return visit goes, but next time use paragraphs.
Kate xx
