i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.
"rent/extortion) were even met.
$11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".
I speculate this because if they announced a cost of $17,000, too many JWs would simply ask the school administrators what the real rent cost is and easily expose the scam WT pulls every assembly at its own facilities. WT has total control and zero transparency at its own ass halls..which is the way they like it.-ADCMS
Yes I speculate too, how much is cost, and how much is pure profit. SCAM.
Kate xx
this would have been interesting.
our convention is this coming weekend (17th - 19th oct) and is being held at the forsyth barr stadium, dunedin, new zealand.
at the same time our nz rugby itm cup is having its semi final round.
What a shame the team didn't get through, I would have loved to have seen that one pan out lol. Kate xx
i am the vine; you are the branches.
if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".
according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.
I got round it by saying I was annointed, those verses always troubled me and gave me CD. The elders told me I wasn't, the whole bible is nonsense anyway. Plenty of Chritians throughout the world believe they are anointed too.
Now I get round it by believing, there is no such thing as holy spirit or anointed.
Kate xx
I found it interesting to see the fall and rise of partakers too, and compare them to number of publishers. Thanks jwfacts.com for your hard work. Kate xx
well,according to my mother,lots of bible studies and newly interested ones because of the promotion of the website.
it is just growing,lol.. i have no clue.
it's funny their spin on things.
I am not attending anymore, but I don't think there is any growth in the KH. I think many are leaving. The GB are spinning the growth IMO. Kate xx
i am sorry for the title but today just took the cake.
after not going to the meetings since august and trying to sort through this with my family, my wife today told me she wants to separate because of our differences over being a witness or not.. this is ridiculous.
so i said- how can you separate from me when the religion you whole heartedly believe says you can only separate for 3 reasons- abuse, willful non-support, or stopping her from her meeting attendance, etc.
I am also so sorry your wife is doing this. It's terrible. This cult is responsible for splitting families. I have lost my family too because of thie cult and the mishandling of DV. I know what it feels like to get the raw end of the deal in a bad divorce. It's not easy, I won't pretend that it is. Keep us informed and we can provide support.
You never know her decision may not be final.
Kate xx
why did you become a jw, what particular teachings attracted you to 'the truth' ?.
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in my case (baptized at 20/21) it was the only religion i knew; my mom, her mom, and favorite sister were jw; and the teachings of no hellfire or immortal soul made sense to me.. .
I am a convert, I converted in my 20's. It wasn't a teaching that converted me it was the love bombing. I had an instant circle of friends that truly loved me for who I was. These dear friends became like family to me and were genuine to the core, some have died now. But my loved ones are the reason leaving is so painful and joining was so easy.
They didn't realise love bombing was a cult strategy, they are all genuine my close loved ones.
That's what got me in, and why I stayed for so long.
Kate xx
check out the new jan 2015 study wt, article, they offer themselves willingly.
they give examples of young and middle age brothers and sisters who are selling their dream homes, uprooting their lives, etc, to move to help w/ building branches, etc, and how they know it's only temporary but not worried about what happens when they send them home.
they then say will you put jah to the test and see if he won't open the flood gates of blessings for you.
What a property scam. WT just get as much free labour as they can, and there is always someone willing to fall for it. A generous soul who believes Jehovah will provide. So sad.
Kate xx
there seems to be several discussions about a new 10 hour pioneer arrangement that was susposedly announced at the 2014 annual meeting.. i even called a couple who usually get invited each year and they said that there was nothing like that mentioned.
they just mentioned the "new" stuff had to do with the jw tv thing, the language app, the changes regarding gog of magog, the talents, the virgins, etc.
but absolutely nothing about 10 hour pioneers.. rub a dub.
It would be good to know if this is true or not.- Kool Jo
I think it's true, I have seen it bandied about all over the place. It's a control mechanism and breeds competative behaviours that get members doing more. It seems like a cult strategy so it probably is true. Thankfully it's so stupid it will probably wake up many JWs too.
Kate xx
me i try my best but my spelling is bad and some times i get missunerstood...any funny exsperiences?.
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I think I am straight and to the point. If I disagree with a point I am not shy to communicate it. I also try and have two way communication with other posters. When I first started threads I used to answer everyone individually, but now I am trying to control my post count I don't always, but apologise instead.
I think interacting with other posters is important and that's how I communicate on JWN.
I agree with Apogs' point about grammar, punctuation and spelling. I try and make sure my written communications are something I am not ashamed of, and I find it difficult to respect a posters message when there are a lot of errors in the post. The odd typo doesn't really bother me though.
Kate xx
