hey ya'll!
i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.
actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.
SW,
Welcome to the board. You have been given lots of advice some I agree with and others I don't. But ultimately you are in a sticky situation and you have to do what's best for you and your daughter.
I was DF'd and divorced. This is most definitely the worst way to leave. So if you could leave any other way and keep relationships in tact I would.
Take care and keep us informed
Kate xx
just want to take a moment and mention how exceptional the moderator is here @simon.
been on many many forums and you'll be pressed to find a more fair person.
he creates a safe environment where the chicanery is a minimum.
I agree Simon is great....even if he called me a drama queen in another thread. He is still someone I respect for spending so much time on this site to support ex JWs.
I couldn't cope without JWN.
Freddo.....lol hahaha love it
Diog......I couldn't agree more
Kate xx
i have known all of them over the last 15 years, talked at length with them, and knew what their wishes were, the copyright holder and spouse spent even more time with them socially and helping them set up their arrangements for when ray and cynthia passed.
i don't believe that anyone else on this board or others was a confidant.
there is no need to prove it to anyone but the copyright office which is satisfied with this.
I am with you Diog, well said I have read the reddit OP and Cedars was sincere about his wrong doing.
I have also had an email from Deborah the CRH after asking her some questions. She was very swift in replying within hours, which I was impressed with, but pretty much repeated what she said in her public statement. I won't say anything else as it was a private email except to say she seemed more concerned about warning me about PDF copyright law than anything else. I thanked her and didn't get into a debate. But I was unsatisfied with her response.
Kate xx
i have known all of them over the last 15 years, talked at length with them, and knew what their wishes were, the copyright holder and spouse spent even more time with them socially and helping them set up their arrangements for when ray and cynthia passed.
i don't believe that anyone else on this board or others was a confidant.
there is no need to prove it to anyone but the copyright office which is satisfied with this.
I doubt it WMF......when you read what the CPH....has written in her statement it seems she has good intentions.....but doesn't set any firm deadlines due to her ill health.
Kate xx
click on preview book.
you can review the entire book it looks like.
has alot of good information.
im on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
overall they pretend that I don't exist.-magotan
Sorry about this, it's really sad. It makes me so angry. I feel deeply for you xx
Kate xx
click on preview book.
you can review the entire book it looks like.
has alot of good information.
Looks like you have change your mind SBF
Kate xx
blondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.
canadian exjws from calagary.
an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.
£19.49
This is an unreasonable price compared to most ebooks. Sorry I am not interested in reading or recommending something so exorbitantly priced, but in the same vein I will not read the free download either
Kate xx
blondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.
canadian exjws from calagary.
an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.
If I want to read for my own joy I will pay for whatever whets my appetite. But if I am researching alternatives to CoC to recommend to doubting JWs then I want to read it before I recommend it.
I use libraries regularly, I am currently reading Bad Pharma and I read Malala's story.
I have listened to the pros and cons of providing PDF downloads, and I have looked at alternative books. I want to do what's right as far as authors and CRH are concerned and I want to help doubting ones the same way I was helped.
Who is the priority?
Kate xx
blondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.
canadian exjws from calagary.
an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.
Thanks orpahan crow,
I just looked up Apocalypse Delayed and the revised copy is $40 there are original copies for over $100 this is too much to spend on a book when there is also free downloads available. Penton does not sell an electronic version.
I have identified that this is a common problem with some apostate JW literature. I will not buy this book myself or illegally obtain a free PDF.
If the CRH and the Authors want to expose the WT the best way possible they will find a way. If they are more concerned about money then they won't be focussing on exposing WT.
Good idea though Orpahn Crow.
Kate xx
