hi.. i am a long time member of the board, but i am too embarrassed to put this under my username.
if people 'discover' who this is, please keep it to yourselves.
simon, my apologies, but please understand why i created the username.
Dear Aspiration,
glad to hear you are going to the doc. we are all rooting for you. They test you for thyroid problems, I guess that can have a big impact on your emotions. Make sure that gets done if you haven't already. Sounds like you are ready to take charge, perhaps posting was your first step. It always helps to know people care.
Deb
i think that it would be a good idea to give a copy of that picture of armageddon to any letters that you send to any politicians, legal court cases, whatever the case may be.. the picture is absolutley disgusting, and shows blatant mind control.
a copy of that in with a letter to any politician would wake them the hell up as to what kind of cult this is!
maybe a follow-up letter with the picture enclosed?
every time I look at it , it scares me more. But please, I would like suggestions on how to get the book.
Deb
hi.. i am a long time member of the board, but i am too embarrassed to put this under my username.
if people 'discover' who this is, please keep it to yourselves.
simon, my apologies, but please understand why i created the username.
My Dear Aspiration,
I am so sorry, I recently had a bout with exactly what you are describing. It does sound like depression to me, the deadened feelings are classic. Paxil works great, but I think you need medication and some professional help. My husband wanted me to get help, I called my doctor and up-ed my dose for a while, I have been on the Paxil for almost 10 years. It allows you to feel again, you may have to tinker with the dose-too much makes me sleepy, not enough gives me the heeby-jeebies. I have been using Dr. Phil's book and HOT DAMN but it works. Go get a copy of LIFE MATTERS, I can't emphasize enough how great it is. Start the book and see how you feel in a couple of days, first you get instant results, but you must settle in and do ALL of the work for lasting results. If you don't start feeling better, get some help, get a copy of the book for your wife too. You will also need a big fat notebook for the work. Share the healing with your beloved, you both deserve it. You can do this.
I know what it feels like to not want to leave the house - been there, all you need is to see the doctor for meds and get the book!!!!! Go from there, if its not working do something else, I know you can do this-tell yourself I DESERVE TO BE HAPPY and mean it. You might have to fake it at first, but soon you will mean it. I've never been in the chat room, if you want to do that, have a little back and forth, I would be happy to share, no I would be THRILLED to share, it means alot to me, I want to help, truly I do.
Deb
i think that it would be a good idea to give a copy of that picture of armageddon to any letters that you send to any politicians, legal court cases, whatever the case may be.. the picture is absolutley disgusting, and shows blatant mind control.
a copy of that in with a letter to any politician would wake them the hell up as to what kind of cult this is!
maybe a follow-up letter with the picture enclosed?
Cruzanheart,
I figured it would be a touchy subject, but he seems to really care about children and I thought that if he actually saw that publication and the one so many of us were damaged by-the old Paradise Lost book, that he might do it. I am going to keep on bugging him just in case, I bring up a new angle everytime I email, hoping one will trip his trigger. I also emphasized EX-JW'S, less controversial than targeting the faithful, we have a right to be heard. I would mention to him that my ex-husband was guilty of molesting a 15 year old, he was an elder, but I don't want to humiliate my children. I can't sacrifice them for the cause, the price is too high.
not meant to give anyone nightmares !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
i'm sure we will all answer no, but for the fun of it, what would have to happen for you to return to the kingdom hall,.
and what would the elders/judicial committee say to you if you wanted to go back.. do you think even if you returned with a new attitude, that you would always be "marked" by the congregation.. should get some interesting answers !!!!!!!!!
Nothing could make me go back, and after all these years I have nightmares that I went back. Horrible nighmares that feel like I sold my soul to the mythical devil. Shortly before I DA'd an elder told me that if I screw up, the congregation would never forgive me-and boy did I "screw up". This is the same elder who is a dentist and he slapped my son across the face for crying when he had a tooth pulled. My son didn't tell me for many years because he knew I'd raise the roof. He was only 5 and his baby tooth wouldn't come out after the permanent tooth came in. We were still among the "faithful" at the time and that bastard slapped him across the face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. This is also the same elder who tried to make "sheparding" calls when I stopped coming to meetings and before I DA'd. He screamed at me and shamed me and I ran out of my own house to get away from him. So I repeat NOTHING could make me go back.
i think that it would be a good idea to give a copy of that picture of armageddon to any letters that you send to any politicians, legal court cases, whatever the case may be.. the picture is absolutley disgusting, and shows blatant mind control.
a copy of that in with a letter to any politician would wake them the hell up as to what kind of cult this is!
maybe a follow-up letter with the picture enclosed?
I want a copy of the book, how to get one? I surely can't walk into the local KH, they all know me there and for three congregations around. I want to send one to Dr. Phil, I have been emailing through his website trying to get him to do a show for ex-witnesses, his show is so popular I think it would be a great forum for demonstrating what ex-JW's have gone through. I would like some feedback on this and I'm wondering if anyone would want to join in on a campaign to help get him to do a show.
Deb
here is a classic example of why it is that cultic religions find it necessary to conceal their old publications from the scrutiny of the membership.
this example is from 7th day adventism, but i assure all readers it is a classic and well worth the reading.
still, it is necessary to lay out a little background to the speech i will be quoting from before proceeding.
Winston,
I couldn't understand why anyone would be a fence sitter after they learned the real truth, but I certainly do understand now. I am sorry for your situtation, I really am. Having been through a divorce I know how devastating it is, to mind, body and pocketbook. I hope that you may lead her into the light. Proceed with caution as I see you already are. Wish I had a helpful suggestion. Plus now I have a new idea for a cottage industry--Meeting Bags!!! I can see it now, the outside having a lovely lions lying down lambs motif and for the inside--perhaps some of those charming Armageddon pictures from the new book for children, it would be great to puke on those.
Deb
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this question has probably been asked before, but since i am a newbie, i wouldn't know.. anyway, i would like to ask if you believe in god or a higher power since becoming an ex-jw?.
ron
sorry about that Onacruse, oh, did I mention he cooks and does laundry? I'm serious he's great but he doesn't like Mozart. I was telling him about my favorite Mozart piece I told him I think ole Amadeus was thinking about making love to his wife in a beautiful meadow when he wrote that piece-its that beautiful and my man came back with the sweetest compliment I ever recieved, "Well if that was me, I would have wrote(yes he said wrote) alot better song than that!!" am I off subject here? Oh yeah do you believe in god now? Maybe god made Mozart. So for you fellow atheist/agnostics out there, is there anything so beautiful it would make you believe ?
just curious.
i get the impression from reading posts that a great deal are.
i also noticed while i was studying with them that virtually everybody has/had a relative that was disfellowshipped or knew someone who is/was.
DA baby the only way to go, I have seen posts by people who allowed themselves to be DF'd that would be like waiting for your cheatin mate to divorce you for the other man/woman.
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this question has probably been asked before, but since i am a newbie, i wouldn't know.. anyway, i would like to ask if you believe in god or a higher power since becoming an ex-jw?.
ron
amen,
yeah, that praying thing is a toughie. When I was still in I prayed ALOT. I was so unhappy, had a lot to be unhappy about, but anyway, I prayed and prayed and then I left my husband and my religion, they both deserved it he was cheatin and so was the WT with the UN I guess but I didn't know what either one of them were up to but I knew something was TERRIBLY wrong, maybe I got my answer, it took 7 years to meet my new husband - what a man. He is one of the few things that might make me believe in god, if there is one, but why would I assume such a thing. I am sometimes confused too. Anyway my husband is kind, patient and he knows how to communicate AND he cleans toilets, what can I say, a man who cleans toilets-maybe there is a god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
