i took this off of xjw_b12's thread.
(hope you don't mind).
"when considering whether to include a pinata at a social gathering, christians should be sensitive to the consciences of others.
Well, well, well, if they are going for mainstream they have a long way to go. They not only have to get the rafter out of their eye, they have to get the pole out of their butt. And I do agree, that is a very telling sentence and to tell you the truth, I can't believe they said it, but there it is in writing. Now they really must get some new light, because that sentence could be used for many things. But never fear, new light will fix it all up.
Deb
i've really been struggling over the past few months.
when craig and i got married, i didn't invite my dad to my wedding.
six weeks later he takes his life.
Tink,
Sometimes it seems like anniversaries are worse than when someone dies. The first anniversary of my brother's death was way worse than when he died. Maybe its because the shock has worn off and all that is left is the pain. Like so many others here I can identify. My father always beat the hell out of my brother that died. Perry died of cancer at age 50, but his entire life was a disaster and I believe it is because of what my parents did to him. I grieved his life more than his death.
There is no time line for grieving, so don't add guilt for "not being over it". A big cry always helps. The big cry cannot be avoided and sometimes it hits at an inopportune time. I have had the big cry happen in public more than once. Try to be at home on the actual anniversary date, I would try to plan a day of grieving and go with it-a good wallow in misery will help get it out of your system. Someone mentioned writing a letter, I have done that and it works. It was cruel and nasty to go and leave you holding the bag, so let him know exactly how you feel. Tell him if you hate him, tell him if you love him, get it all out because its not good to go around all stopped up. No matter what you are feeling YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO IT! Hope this helps. My thoughts are with you my dear.
Deb
on september 8, 1963 my sister, carmen elizabeth was born.. she was, and would remain the only girl in our family.
she was so adorable, brown haired, brown eyed and had a great smile.
she was less than a year younger than i, and we were like the 'best of pals' as kids.. she'd allow me to put beans in her ears, or get her to put peas in her nose or carrots on top of her teeth, and make me laugh.. she was born in cape breton, nova scotia.
Rayzorblade,
She will always be your beautiful snow angel. Ray, I don't think she is gone, she is there with you.
Deb
james did not show up today.
so the seat next to me in my pod remained vacant.. .
in his absence, my pod members (some of whom are new to what i call the "pity pod") trashed him.
Wow Beryl, it must be so hard to sit and listen to all that and not let them know what you know about the JW's. What really gets me is the JW's who live two lives. If you know its not for you and don't really believe it but stay in just in case is cowardice. I take a hard line on that kind of behavior. And I'm not talking about fading, people who fade so as not to loose their families are very brave, but people who want it both ways are another story. My sister is like that, she wants to have her cake and eat it too. Keep her "good standing" but still be materialistic and egotistic and suck everything she can out of both worlds. Makes me sick. It sounds like your co-worker is one of those. But on the other hand, maybe he is struggling. Maybe he is beginning to realize the real truth. It is very confusing trying to figure out what is allowable behavior on the outside. When you spend your whole life hearing that the "world loves its own" and that the "world" has no decent standards of behavior, it is easy to be clueless. How would you know?
As far as gossip goes, it is hard not to get sucked into it. I think people engage in gossip because it is a great distraction from their own lives. It is much easier to critique every aspect of someone else's life than to look seriously at our own. Gossip also plays a role in society. People tend to watch their behavior out of fear of being gossiped about.
Deb
now ain't that just the cutest thing?.
that's chewbacca.
"chewie" for short.
Very cute rat!
When my oldest son, now 25, was in kindergarten the classroom pet rats decided to get it on, with a litter of babies as a result. My son came home from school and told me he wanted a rat, they were giving the babies away. Aaron wanted a rat and had tears in his eyes when he told me how much he wanted a rat. On the appointed rat give away day, I arrived 45 minutes early so as not to miss out on the great rat giveaway. As you can imagine there was NOT a "great crowd" assembled to partake in the event.
The teacher handed me a mason jar with a piece of cloth held on by the screw band of the jar. In the jar was a very large white rat, not the baby I was expecting. The rat virtually filled the jar and the teacher said " you might want to get home before the rat chews through the cloth." It was very creepy to hold a jar filled with rat! As for "getting home before the rat chewed through the cloth" I drove like a bat out of hell.
The rat made my skin crawl, but before I knew it he became a much loved member of the family. My son named him Ratface and would lovingly cuddle his rat crooning "Oh Ratface, you are the best rat in the whole world." I get tears in my eyes remembering how much Aaron loved his rat. My best friend had a parrot who rode around on her shoulder. So my stepson, then 11 years old used to walk around the house with the rat on his shoulder declaring that it was a par-rat.
We had Ratface for a few years and then he got a case of pneumonia. How, you might ask, did we know he had pneumonia? Well, because when he fell ill and quit eating we took him to the vet. I got antibiotics to dose up Ratface, but to no avail, Ratface passed away. It was very sad and we had a solemn funeral in the garden with the whole family and half the neighborhood kids in attendance. We ALL cried.
20 years have come and gone and we still remember Ratface fondly.
Ratface had deluxe accomodations. We bought one of those garage type freestanding shelving units and assembled it without the three middle shelves and then wrapped the whole works in wire mesh. We put some dry tree branches in there for Ratface to climb on. He had lots of room to roam whenever he wasn't riding around on someone's shoulder or being lovingly cuddled by Aaron.
Deb
well, it has finally happened.
my jw husband came home last week and told me he is moving out.
it seems he has been talking to the elders, and they feel his spirituality is being threatened (even though i have not insisted he stop going to meetings, i won't allow any jw material in my home because of my children from a previous marriage - i don't want them exposed to it.
Dead fish and spilled milk. If you can't get him in court and nothing seems to be working, spill milk on whatever furniture he is taking. Inject it into his mattress, etc... Go to the store and get some fish and then place them in his stuff until it stinks real good, remove the fish, then so you won't get caught. Also remove a couple of buttons from each of his shirts. Take a hammer and smash the little teeth on the zippers of his pants. Don't get caught, don't make it look obvious that you tampered with his stuff. Also, when you are together he has stuff, when he leaves its called shit. He will pack up his shit and leave,. discreetly wreak his shit. Dip his tooth brush in the toilet.
Have fun and don't get caught. Be creative. Don't do anything that will cause bodily harm. Even if you decide not to do any of the above, planning it is fun and makes you feel better.
Deb
i'm so excited, when i lived in alaska, i used to hunt quite a bit.
but, the last time i went hunting, it was for kodiak grizzly bear.
i had never went after something so large before.
My husband is hunting and fishing guy supreme. I have one rule-it has to look like food before it comes into the house. No face, no feet. He eats what he hunts. I occasionally eat some venison but most of the time he cooks it for his work crew. He cooks up big batches of stew and feeds the guys. He also brings his coleman stove and has a fish fry for whoever is on the job site. Oh by the way, he is a ceramic tile contractor. He told me that when he hunts he says a prayer after hunting to thank his creator for the food. But as he gets older-he's almost 54, it gets harder to kill when he hunts. He figures that at some point he will quit hunting, but for now it is something he enjoys with his family and friends.
His ex-wife hunts, but its not for me, I can't even squish big bugs. But sometimes I go ice fishing with him, sorta fun out in the ice shack with some peppermint schnapps (sp?) in hot chocolate. One time I had a great big crappie drop off my line when I had it almost out of the hole, I dropped my pole and stuck my arm in to grab my fish and all I ended up with is a cold, wet arm.
Deb
long time, no see.. i just thought i'd post and ask for your help.
my jw friend is now ready to look at some hard evidence about the jws.
i'm out of practice.....what things can i point out that will really make a difference?.
Pehaps one could shove a flashlight up their butt. Sorry I'm still mad about that man that killed his kid, hey there's a good one to share with anyone who is wondering about whether to stay in the org.
Deb
every so often, i'll read on the board how some just hate jw's.
whether it's the individuals or the organization, some vehemently abhor everything connected to jehovah's witnesses.
i do not personally hate anyone.
Well I hate them. Not all the individuals in the org, just the organization itself. The JW's have destroyed my family, so I hate them-its just that simple.
Deb
the following story appears this morning in the south florida sun-sentinel at:.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cmurdsui26aug26,1,2987431.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines.
fort lauderdale police suspect father killed son, then self in home shooting.
As has already been stated here, this has EVERYTHING to do with JW's. A JW will do anything to hide family problems so as not to tarnish the reputation of the organization or its god. When the fur hit the fan and word got out that my husband was cheating I did not dwell for even a moment on my own pain. ALL I could think about was that this would make the JW's look bad. I forgave him without his even asking for my forgiveness-it was a given. He never even asked and I doubt it even occurred to him to ask and it never occured to me that I should be begged for forgiveness. A child is dead and we blame the man that shot him and rightly so, but there must be accountability among the Jehovah's Witnesses. They tell themselves over and over that they are the happy people worshipping the happy god when nothing could be further from the truth.
Look at the literature it is filled with acts of cruelty and vengeance and so is the bible. How could a culture steeped in violence be anything but violent. I remember paging through the Book of Bible Stories looking for a story that wouldn't scare the shit out of my kids at bedtime. For you who are defending the JW's get out the book and look at the violence. If anyone still has the book could you please post the percentage of the stories contained in it that depict violence in both word and illustration. The book is filled with scenes of death and murder and most of it was condoned - no that is the wrong word-glorified by the society. This is what will happen to those who disobey. Now you tell me what is really so surprising about the father killing the child! Is the bible and the literature of the Watchtower Society not replete with the same scenario? I don't believe in hell but if there happens to be one I can think of an organization that belongs there-lock, stock and barrel. I am very angry with ANYONE that would defent that religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deb
