Well I hate them. Not all the individuals in the org, just the organization itself. The JW's have destroyed my family, so I hate them-its just that simple.
Deb
freein89
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I Don't Hate JW's. I Just Think They're Wrong
by minimus inevery so often, i'll read on the board how some just hate jw's.
whether it's the individuals or the organization, some vehemently abhor everything connected to jehovah's witnesses.
i do not personally hate anyone.
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JW Father Kills Self and 12-year-old Son
by fjtoth inthe following story appears this morning in the south florida sun-sentinel at:.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cmurdsui26aug26,1,2987431.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines.
fort lauderdale police suspect father killed son, then self in home shooting.
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freein89
As has already been stated here, this has EVERYTHING to do with JW's. A JW will do anything to hide family problems so as not to tarnish the reputation of the organization or its god. When the fur hit the fan and word got out that my husband was cheating I did not dwell for even a moment on my own pain. ALL I could think about was that this would make the JW's look bad. I forgave him without his even asking for my forgiveness-it was a given. He never even asked and I doubt it even occurred to him to ask and it never occured to me that I should be begged for forgiveness. A child is dead and we blame the man that shot him and rightly so, but there must be accountability among the Jehovah's Witnesses. They tell themselves over and over that they are the happy people worshipping the happy god when nothing could be further from the truth.
Look at the literature it is filled with acts of cruelty and vengeance and so is the bible. How could a culture steeped in violence be anything but violent. I remember paging through the Book of Bible Stories looking for a story that wouldn't scare the shit out of my kids at bedtime. For you who are defending the JW's get out the book and look at the violence. If anyone still has the book could you please post the percentage of the stories contained in it that depict violence in both word and illustration. The book is filled with scenes of death and murder and most of it was condoned - no that is the wrong word-glorified by the society. This is what will happen to those who disobey. Now you tell me what is really so surprising about the father killing the child! Is the bible and the literature of the Watchtower Society not replete with the same scenario? I don't believe in hell but if there happens to be one I can think of an organization that belongs there-lock, stock and barrel. I am very angry with ANYONE that would defent that religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Shelter for abused children of JW's?
by blaid inany thoughts on how i would go about setting this sort of thing up?
call me crazy, but i could really use one of these things right now, and all throughout my life.
any ideas?
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freein89
There are a lot of great sites about how to start a non profit, of whatever sort you want. I recently did some research on how to do a similar thing. Just go on Yahoo and search for "non-profit" the sites are very detailed and tell you how to do your homework, how to get legal advice, you name it. I say go and do some research and then see what you think, go for it, I am interested if you want to collaborate.
Deb
good luck and pm me if you want to discuss it.
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A Beautiful Mind
by LittleToe ini've just watched "a beautiful mind", with russell crowe, on video.. i loved it, even though i was moved to tears.
believe me when i say that's an accolade.
last time i got near to that was seeing "dead poet's society" and "awakening" with robin williams, on the big screen (1989/90 respectively?
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freein89
A Beautiful Mind was a beautiful movie. Oh and I love Adaptation, my son made me watch it. Very though provoking. The Color Purple is on my list too But two of my all time favorites are old, Imitation of Life and Penny Serenade. Anybody know those two?
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The right age to get baptized?
by shotgun ini've always wondered why it was ok for jesus to wait until he was 29 to get baptized in symbol of his dedication while jw's are pressured at such an early age.
do you suppose joseph was always on his case...jesus get up its time to go to the temple.....why didn't you comment today?.......when are you going stop hanging out in gallilee with all your friends and get baptized?.
is this just another control aspect of the wtbts, handcuff you to the org while your young and make it almost impossible to leave later when you mature?
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freein89
NEWSFLASH------there is no right age to be baptized, at least not into the JW's
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the cleaning lady
by kilroy2 inthis is a funny story the i have to go back and do some history so that you can understand where i am coming from.
dan babcock of wolverine michigan was raised a jw.
he stopped going to meetings in his early teens.. dan could never give up being a jw but at the same time he did not like all the rules that intruded into his personal life.. he would go to meetings when he got into trouble to smooth over everything with the borg.. at one point he stopped going all together and started to have his own personal meetings at his house and would conduct his own studys and talks.. dan died a couple of years ago.
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freein89
The heck you say, a JW cleaning lady? Usually JW's use higher education and get better jobs, like bagging groceries. I must admit there was a time when I would have run screaming from the no Jehovah sign. Yup I was brainwashed big time. Those poor people, I feel such a mixture of pity and contempt. I guess its not really fair to feel contempt but I can't help it, wouldn't you think that at some point they would wake up? But I do remember how scary it was to leave. However staying was a scarier thought than leaving. Maybe I am a hypocrite because I didn't leave when I saw others being hurt, only when I was hurt. It was only when I was going through pain that I could open my eyes to the fact that the WT was lying and making it all up as they went along. It is like playing a game with a child that makes up the rules as they go along so they can win. If you ask a little kid to teach you a card game, they invent rules along the way if they see you are winning. With a little kid you might play along but these are adults and it's not a game, lives are at stake. Makes me sick.
Deb
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No More Anonymity
by Francois ini have posted at this site for over two years.
i have posted nearly 6,000 posts here, and for the most part i've posted as francois, or i've not identified myself with a screen name at all.
i've never directly identified myself.
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freein89
Well I must say I am a tad confused. Why are people ripping on Frank? Frankly I have always found Franks posts (sorry I couldn't resist saying Frankly) to be kind and insightful. He's is usually right on the money. What's the deal? Frank I think you are cool!!!!!!!!!! I'm serious here, you always seem to know the right thing to say and maybe some people here are jealous. Logansrun, why are you so cranky, take a deep breath and let it out slowly. There now, feel better?
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I am so hurt. JW friend has disowned me :-(
by Hamas ini got to hear some real bad news
i was speaking to my 'best friends' sister only minutes ago.
my 'best friend' i used to do everything with.
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Hamas, my heart goes out to you, losing friends is so very painful, I lost mine along time ago. When I had my fourth child ( and last) my husband was out of town and my best friend went through my long labor with me and was there for my daughters delivery, I let her choose Alicia's middle name to thank her (it was a really long labor). When I da'd she quit me just like all the rest. I cried oceans and buckets of tears. It hurts so very much to lose a good friend. The love for a friend goes deep and is not easily lost, but the pain will subside, I promise you that, but it does take awhile. I'm so glad you could talk to us about it, and I am honored to be counted among the people that care about you and would never betray you. A hug for you.
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No More Anonymity
by Francois ini have posted at this site for over two years.
i have posted nearly 6,000 posts here, and for the most part i've posted as francois, or i've not identified myself with a screen name at all.
i've never directly identified myself.
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freein89
Nice to meet you Frank and all, my name is Deborah Gausman. The boy's name was Randy and should his parents ever cross this place, I love you Dick and Mary. Randy was a beautiful boy and I hope you can take comfort that he lived his short life to the fullest and touched many lives. We shared many good times together, remember the "everlasting salad" and the shoe in the freezer? Remember Rawlin and Aaron being the best of little buddies and Timmy the little carpenter with his hammer in his beltloop waiting for Dick to come to work on our house? I hope one day to see you again in true freedom and love. I hope that Randy's example will lead you to peace and happiness, where true friends will always love you and yours.
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Today's My 39th Birthday!
by Yizuman inthis old fart is now officially 39 years old.
this old fart will be over the hill next year!
ah, life!
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freein89
Happy Birthday you old codger!!!! 'Course I am an even older codger so I can rake you over the coals a little. When my husband turned 50 I gave him a card that said that nature compensates for the hearing loss of the aged by making their farts louder.
There is a lot to love about being over 40, but you don't need to know that yet cuz you're only 39! So I'll save the new light for next year.
Deb