E-Watchman has as much right to post as any one of us. But it is only those who give him long and detailed responses that he finds disproportionate importance. Let him have his say. That is what a "forum" is all about. If it is annoying...just ignore the posting!
mizpah
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Bloody E-Watchman!
by czarofmischief ine-watchman has decided to embrace the unholy watchtower whore and uphold her disgusting burdens on blood transfusions.
for the record, i now have e-watchman's email address and will be sending him copies of my commentary shortly after they are posted.
i have edited the content where necessary for sheer space (his verbiage is excessive and tiresome).
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Religion and money
by happy man injw have always said that they have no intrest in money, some here say opposite.. when russel was in charge we use to show all inkome and expenses, but now we nly show upp expenses, and i think this is not so good, why?
beauause this lead to so much spekulaitions.. i find some intresting link as in fackt show upp inkome and expenses, http://album3799.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=11627&offset=13.
some comment on this, is it bluff, and where come this papers from some how steal them and put it in here, perhaps we have some e xpert this as can tell us what this figurs show about the ekonomic astatus in jw.
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mizpah
Your confusion may come because of the differences in law. In Britain, Canada and other countries the law requires "full disclosure" of finances. All of the financial statements of the Watchtower are available for public scrutiny. But in the U.S. this is not required. And the Watchtower Society has chosen not to declare its financial assets. They are kept secret from the public and their own members.
The Billy Graham organization has encouraged other religious groups to be open by "full disclosure." But the Watchtower Society has chosen not to be one of them. Members have been surprised at the wealth of the Watchtower organizations outside the U.S.A. One can only guess at the extent of the wealth of the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society in the U.S. Indications are that it is extremely wealthy not only in property but in tangible dollars and cents.
In Jesus' day it was said of the Pharisees that they were "lovers of money." It is not hard to identify the Pharisees of our own time.
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Senator Bednar Leaves Watchtower!
by Voyager inthis forum has uncovered many jws who were found out to be political officials.
if this information should be old to some,--then perhaps for those who have just left the borg, might find the information helpful to reinforce their freedom.
the thread is very long, so if it should not work, then please go to kent steinhaug's forum at watchtower observer.. http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=f3aa440065982e1f53cc3efe02055681&threadid=2744 .
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mizpah
Lady Lee
Thanks for clarifying that it was about college, not national, politics. The posting was misleading initially. There are enough errors in the Watchtower Society without creating bogus ones. I'm sure that the Watchtower and JWs in general would not have encouraged participation in this sort of thing.
Years ago, I can remember local students being warned not to participate in United Nations Day activities in school. These students were to request another assignment instead. However, some students went ahead and participated anyway with their parent's approve who viewed it strictly as a class assignment. Nor further action was taken. But those participating or allowing participation were viewed as immature members.
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marriage = jw + jw
by HapEMelissa indoes the marriage of an active jw have to be to another active and practicing jw?
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mizpah
Yes, we were constantly reminded in the congregation not to be "unevenly yoked" with an unbelieving mate. Talks frequently mentioned how difficult this situation would be for an active JW. While articles may have been vague about the subject, the talks in the congregation were not. And anyone marrying "outside the truth" was viewed as immature and weak.
One has to understand that not all important information was from articles. A good example of this was the stress on the 1975 date. While only a few articles suggested its importance, the talks left no doubt about how the Society felt about it. District and Circuit overseers emphasized it in their talks at assemblies. In turn, congregation overseers carried the message to the congregations. Everyone knew and anticipated Armageddon in 1975. But the "official" view in the literature could later be stated as a denial.
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Lord save us from the Devil the Turk the Comet and the Fanatics 11
by barry inbrother matheson writes in a thread he calls slippage.
i thought it was something to do with boats but i found out differently.
thanks brother matherson.. in her day ellen white [or somebody who read her writings and attempted to convey their meaning to us] witnessed the evils of using the organ pipes to pump out music during circus -style events.
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mizpah
It is interesting to read that the SDA church has its own problems with defections and apostasy. This constant procedure of splinter groups breaking off to form their own religions is part of the normal process. The Protestant movement is living proof of it.
Many fundamentalists view the changes in society as proof we are living in the "last days" of Biblical prophecy. However, what we may be observing is the breakdown of our culture and society. History teaches us that empires come and go like people. They have youth, middle age and old age. One historian had a theory that the average age of an empire is about 250 years. If true, the American "empire" is in its "old age."
It is always difficult to have a good perspective on historical events until one is well beyond them. Whatever the case, any one who is older than 55 can evaluate the great changes that have happened in our own society in the last 40 years.
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Pornography on the Watchtower web site
by ballistic ini was reading a new article about pornography on the official watchtower web site at.
http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2002/7/8a/article_01.htm.
and it closes with this statement: "it undermines efforts to do good and have a clean conscience.".
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mizpah
I'm not sure that not being bothered in one's conscience is a measure of what is right and wrong. Ted Bundy and other serial murderers had no conscience at all in what they did. For those, it is society that defines the rules of right and wrong. That is why we have laws.
The Bible speaks of consciences that are "scarred" or calloused. Therefore, nothing bothers such individuals. "....but to those corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted." Tit. 1:15
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Haughtiness And The Witnesses
by shamus ini find that the witnesses are very "haughty".
haughty is described in the oxford dictionary as "proud of oneself and looking down on others"; how well this describes the wtbts.. how many people were very proud of having "the troof"?
how many people felt that they were special.
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mizpah
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the only group afflicted with spiritual "haughtiness." Many small fundamentalist groups feel the same way. They will be caught away to be with Christ as others are destroyed. It comes with the same idea that one possess "the truth" that others do not have.
All of them would do well to pay heed to Christ's words: "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted." (Mt. 23:12)
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Oiuji boards
by got my forty homey? inok, so we all know that the society if against ouija boards.
but even many "worldy" spirtualist and ufo types say ouija boards are dangerous.. so, have any of you ever messed around with one?.
i did with my wife and sister in law and all it spewed out was meaningless garbage.
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mizpah
Instead of Ouija (oui=yes ja=yes) it should be a Nonnein (non=no nien-no) board....
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Heart is seed of motivation?
by Coop Man inquick question, or please someone straighten me out!.
the bible refers to the heart as the seed of motivation.
is this the literal heart?
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mizpah
We're not so removed from "ancient cultures" as we might like to think. The heart is still used as the "seat of our emotion." One only has to listen to the songs or read the modern literature to hear about the "heartbreak" or "heartache" of a disappointed love.
Undoubtedly, it has a scientific basis. When we're under emotional pressure, be it good or bad, our heart beats faster to cause the flow of blood to supply oxygen to the various parts of the body. So, literally the heart has a function. But to the ancients and to the romantics, the heart is not merely a pump...but the very source of these emotions.
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mizpah
Interesting material, Blue.
There has always been a movement against Freemasonry in Europe. Many have been convinced that there is a Masonic conspiracy to control the political leaders in these countries. And the Masons have undoubtedly had an influence there even as they have in our own country.
Many of our Presidents in the U.S. were Masons. But there were also many anti-Masons who formed a political party after the Civil War. Masons came into disrepute. But it survived and continues to this day.
I saw the influence of the Masons in my employment years ago. They promoted and protected their fellow members. But I don't think that there is any world conspiracy as charged by some. The democratic countries have counter measures against any organization that gets too powerful. They can always vote in opposition leaders.