Confu -
It's a big man who can admit that perhaps he has some more personal growing to do. I think you're going to make it!
growedup
hey guys,.
alrighty.
enjoying being single.. right now i have a "worldy" girlfriend (note the quotes " ").. but there's this incredibly beautiful jw girl that has shown interest in me.. (i'm not df or da, just not going to meetings.
Confu -
It's a big man who can admit that perhaps he has some more personal growing to do. I think you're going to make it!
growedup
please keep mulan, bigred and princess in your thoughts.
her mother was taken via ambulance to the hospital this morning.
paramedics spoke of possible stroke/ aneurism.
Mulan, Princess, Bigred,
I'm so sorry about what your whole family has been through. You and your family are in my prayers.
imallgrowedup
thanks to tinkerbell, i just learned what "bttt" stands for!
i'm just feeling so special now!
imwtk, (inquiring minds want to know).
LOL @ Blondie!
Minimus -
HBWFBIIOY?
Ok - I know better than to ask, but I'm gunna anyway! Translation please?!
growedup
another fluff special, i've been warned off the jw stuff, so here goes....... would have to be.... 1. jesus christ (just to watch from a distance).
2. aesop (i loved his fables when i was a kid, and still do).
3. my grandad (sentimental, but i never got to see him before i could say goodbye).
Without a doubt, #1 would be Jesus.
Second would be the Apostle Paul.
Third would Charlemagne.
Fourth would be my American Indian great-grandmother who died in a fire on the reservation my Dad has taken me to visit.
just asking because my church of christ friend says you cannot be both.
Enishi/Gumby -
I can see that an entire website can be dedicated to this subject, but I am going to try to keep this short.
First of all, how does all of this fit in with the writings of Josephus who corroborates the story of Jesus and Pilate, and also claims that many believed Jesus to be the King of the Jews?
Gumby -
I can see why you mixed me up with Enishi - I keep mixing up what you are saying with what he is saying, as well!
I took an Early Western Civilizations course in college, and much of what you are saying rings a bell, although quite honestly, it has been so long, I don't remember the specific details. You have inspired me to look into this further. I also intend to speak to my pastor about this. I would like to know how my church fits into all of this.
Enishi -
Are you saying that Yashua was more of a figurehead versus the actual Christ?
I noticed that you gradually changed "Gnosticism" into "Mysticism" by the end of your post. Why?
Part of the reason I choose mysticism as my current understanding is becuase the esoteric path has been held by thousands of groups over thousands of years, with a very high level of consistency. Buddhism, Gnosticism, Essenes, Taoism, Hinduism and Shamanism have all held very similar beliefs which can be backed up through personal experience. The same cannot be said of the orthodoc monotheistic religions.
I don't understand what you mean by this.
What esoteric path?
What can not be said of the orthodox monotheistic relgions?
Inquiring Minds Have More Questions Than Ever,
imallgrowedup
just asking because my church of christ friend says you cannot be both.
Gumby -
I'm not sure if I am understanding you correctly. Are you saying that the Apostle Paul didn't believe in the earthly Jesus?
Inquiring Minds Want to Know,
imallgrowedup
the latest watchtower, dec 15th 2003, is an out and out attack on the rank and file for dropping into a drowsy state spiritually.
ok, so armageddon didn't come before the generation of 1914 grew old and died.
but does that mean that the big a isn't near?
Thank you, Nathan. I have a better understanding of where you are coming from now.
Thanks for taking the time to write!
imallgrowedup
hey guys,.
alrighty.
enjoying being single.. right now i have a "worldy" girlfriend (note the quotes " ").. but there's this incredibly beautiful jw girl that has shown interest in me.. (i'm not df or da, just not going to meetings.
Confu -
I have another couple of thoughts on this subject that I thought might strike a chord with you. First of all though, I want you to know I admire the fact that you could put a question out like this. You are tougher than me; I couldn't put myself out there like that.
In reference to the previous poster who asked you why you were asking a bunch of former JW's their opinion, I have two possible answers. The first relates to the popular opinion that you already have your mind made up. I think you know the wrong choice is the JW, and you subconciously want all of us to give you a reason to follow the right path, rather than the one it is obvious you have already chosen. The problem is, (again, not trying to diss you), that because at this point in your life you value looks and the envy of your buddies more than you do taking the time to really think about who this girl is and what a life with this girl would be like, you are having trouble "jumping off the wrong track".
My other thought is that perhaps you thought other guys in here would tell you to "go for the babe", maybe even tell you how lucky you are to have a choice like the one you are facing. I don't think you expected to find out that all men do not think like you do, or the backlash you are getting from both genders suggesting that your self-admitted shallowness is not necessarily acceptable - even by the worst of the worst - the apostates!
I stand by my personal and humble assertion that you are not ready for any type of a relationship whatsoever. You'll know know you are ready to meet the right person, or that you have found the right person if you can answer "yes" to all of the following: Do YOU want to be seen as more than a hunk with a huge bank account? Do YOU think you have plenty of room for personal, intellectual, emotional and spiritual growth? Can YOU see yourself with this person and not think about how your buddies will see you with this person, either in a negative or positive light? If you can't answer "yes" to all three of these questions (and probably more I haven't even thought of), you're not ready to make a decision to marry someone!
I think you need to get out there and date a bunch of women until you find one that makes your socks roll up and down all by themselves - because she loves to do the same things you do, is intelligent, knows just what to say and/or do to make you feel like you are more than a bankroll with muscles and gleaming white teeth, and has qualities that you admire - which in turn, inspire you to be a better person! If she also looks good, it's just a bonus! When you can realize that looks are supporting factors in choosing women, not primary factors, you're well on your way to finding a relationship that will last and will have a positive effect on you. Don't set yourself or a relationship up for failure by valuing the temporary.
imallgrowedup
the latest watchtower, dec 15th 2003, is an out and out attack on the rank and file for dropping into a drowsy state spiritually.
ok, so armageddon didn't come before the generation of 1914 grew old and died.
but does that mean that the big a isn't near?
Nathan -
So what you are saying is the WT is claiming through inference that Adam spent 59 years on Earth before Eve was created?
imallgrowedup
just asking because my church of christ friend says you cannot be both.
Gumby/Enishi -
I thought in order for one to call themself a "Christian", one had to believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God and that he died for the sins of mankind. Am I wrong?
Do Gnostics call themselves "Christians" even though it appears as though they don't believe in the same "Christ" as the Jesus Christ of the Bible?
Do people who believe in a "spiritual heavenly Jesus", believe that Jesus ever walked the earth?
imallgrowedup (of the "still looking for my eyelids" class!)