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  When selling was preaching ...

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am going way, way back.

  history reveals that in the beginning the wt was just a publishing house, selling books and magazines; over the years it evolved into what it is today..

  the placement of the original publications was mostly done thru sales people masquerading as preachers.

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  Haven't found the "sales" report form yet, it may have been tucked away in one of the older books I have. I did find one of those canvas bags with Awake 5¢ on one side and Watchtower 5¢ on the other.

  Remeber the chart that hung on the wall in all Kingdom Halls? Had he activity of the congo in black and red(?maybe) numbers. Showed hours etc for each category: Publishers, Pioneers, vacation pioneers. The Circuit Servant (CO) used to open out that board and castigate the sheep for their lack of ... whatever he was trumpeting that visit. Those were the days...I was a book study conductor at 16 and the Bible Study servant at 18 (part of the congregation committee).
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  When selling was preaching ...

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am going way, way back.

  history reveals that in the beginning the wt was just a publishing house, selling books and magazines; over the years it evolved into what it is today..

  the placement of the original publications was mostly done thru sales people masquerading as preachers.

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  Somewhere I have a copy of the Field Service report, or whtever it was then called, that has a column or line for "Sales". If I still have it I'll scan it.
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  No more doubts for me! Good-bye JWN! We have THE TRUTH!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i could go on and on about my personal journey over the last 2 years or so, but i don't need to.

  everything i needed to hear to finally lay my doubts to rest happened on one meeting night.

  it could only be divine providence.

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  Methinks he doth protest too much.
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  The watchtower quoting itself as if it were scripture about weddings...

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the 1997 wt, 4/15 page 26 is about weddings and more rules the wt tries to enforce to take the fun out of even weddings.

  "while a disfellowshipped person could be allowed to attend the talk at the kingdom hall, the watchtower of april 15, 1984, said: it would be unfitting to have in the wedding party people who are disfellowshipped or whose scandalous life-style grossly conflicts with bible principles.

  - isn't that funny?

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  This is a constant feature of JW doctrine and rules, quote itself as the authority. As if this gives any real weight to the blather.
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  Do you frown upon tattoos?

  by confusedandalone in

  1. social
  2. physical

  i am very interested in hearing from people who really think that people with tattoos are somehow weird or cagey individuals.

  i would just like to get your outlook on this matter.

  today i was in a grocery store and i sawe this guy with his two kids and his wife shopping.

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  I can only imagine what some of these folks will look like in 20-30 years. Blotched out wrinkled tats and droopy ear holes. Spare me.

  Get 'em if you must.
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  Please don't take the mick....but I got disfellowshipped for kneeing an elder in the nads

  by outinthemeadows in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  an elder in my congregation got on my nerves because he kept putting his arm around me and i'd asked him to stop.

  a few weeks later he did the same thing again so i used my knee against his micro-penis.

  a judicial committee was formed even though i was being sexually harrassed by this octapus of an elder.

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  Did you call the police and give a statement about your fears of sexual harassment?
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  Death Of Print Update

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://gawker.com/new-york-magazine-begins-to-give-up-on-print-1474820408.

  little by little....... print media is dying.

  i understand the head of buzzfeed asserted that 'there are no new newspaper subscribers being born', statistically speaking.. metatron.

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  Being the itinerate techno geek of course I have e-readers....but - I miss holding some of my favorite mags and flipping back and forth as I read a particular article. PC Magazine and PC World both are now digital only. A number of other journals we subscribe to are also digital only. It is nice to have finger tip access to hoards of professional infomation and journals. Despite all this I think something is still missing not having the print in your hand. I miss it already.
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  Gerrit Losch was actually once an apostate.

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a jw friend of mine (who was one of my besties until i told him i didn't believe jw religion anymore) used to live in austria and for a while in the 70's was in the same congregation as losch.

  they used to spend some time together in the ministry.

  my jw friend tells me that he and losch used to often talk about how they believed the wt was wrong about certain interpretations of the bible, for example, how at the time the wt taught that the mustard tree used by jesus in an illustration represented an evil kingdom, and losch and friend didn't think that was right.

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  It appears that Loesch thinks of himself as the chief seer for the dubs today.
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  We shall dress with modesty (1Tim2:9), why dress like rich lawyers or wealthy financiers?

  by Mr Fool in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my point of view, modest clothing is simple and humble.

  so why are jw-men dressed like they own a big company or are challangers to the president post?

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  My lawyer wears jeans in the office most of the time. Never wore a cheap suit in my life, there is something about a well made suit that just makes it a little easier to put up with having to wear one.

  I remember one time another elder in my hall came up and complimented me on a tie I was wearing. Said "wow that tie must have cost $20." At first I didn't want to correct him, but then thought better of it since he was always such a know it all to others. When I told him it cost about $100 he got green in the face and walked away speechless. It was worth the cost of the tie just to see it.

  There are times in business when suits may be a necessity but I'm just as comfortable, if not more so, in a pair of jeans now.
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  Are JWs more tight with money than normal people?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  actually, in my experience, i have not found them to be tighter or more generous with money.

  i've found them to be about the same with handling money as non-jws, though less likely to invest their money, but unlikely to waste it on cigarettes, pubs/clubs and gambling like many non-jws do.

  i certainly don't find them tighter or stingier than normal people though, and slightly more honest.. what are your experiences with jws and money compared to non-jws and money?.

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  Most dubs I knew were CHEAP and not very forthcoming with the wallet. I've almost always picked up the check when dining out and can't really recall anytime anyone really fought me for the check or insisted on paying at least the tip. I found going out with groups quite embarrasing when it came tip time and often found myself leaving a larger tip to make up for the deficiency. There were some who I would refuse to go out with because they were notoriously rude and bad tippers to boot.