Major lying here on her part. A 401K is not under the control of the boss. The beneficiary or owner of the 401K is the employee. If she wsa not vested yet she could withdraw only the amount she had contributed, if vested she was entitled to all of it. Of course if she took the money before age entitled she would have to pay a tax penalty.
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Highlights from the Circuit Assembly!!
by DATA-DOG ingod's word is beneficial ca:.
full time service:.
there are sound reasons for pioneering.. 1) it's the most satisfying work there is.. 2) you cooperate even more fully with the angels and the anointed [ which equals the gb/fds, not sister old mcsingletilldeath.].
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Taking Back The Kingdom Halls.
by RunAsFastAsYouCan inthesis: the kingdom halls as a real estate entity could be couped; coup d'etat.
a group of 3 elders as trustees could sell the kingdom hall out from under mother watchtower corporation.
spread the money to the community or non profits, or just give it as a distribution to the congregation who paid for the kingdom hall.
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SadElder
At some point there was a leter from "mother" to all Florida congregations telling them to change the articles of incorporation / bylaws to include specific language regarding the WTBTS. I can't recall the exact wording, but it basically gave final control to the Brooklyn JW mafia. The circuit overseer was to check that this language had been included. While I was an eldub I remember him checking this every time he visited. Likely the society lawyer staff scoured the laws of each state and made silmilar adjustments. They aren't going to let that money get away, no way, no how.
After a little searching I found the language to be inserted (notice the Governing Body is mentioned yet didn't they state in court that the GB was a religious non-person?):
ARTICLE IV, NO DISTRIBUTION OF NET EARNINGS
No part of the net earnings of the Corporation shall insure to the benefit any member, trustee, director, officer of the Corporation, or any private individual having a personal and private interest in the Corporation (except that reasonable compensation may he paid for services rendered to or for the Corporation), and no member, trustee, officer of the Corporation, or any private individual shall be entitled to share in the distribution of arty of the corporate assets an dissolution of the Corporation. The property of this Corporation is irrevocable dedicated to religious purposes.
ARTICLE V. DISTRIBUTION UPON DISSOLUTION
Upon winding up and dissolution of this Corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the Corporation, the Corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.. which is organized and operated exclusively for religious and charitable purposes and which has established its tax-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue. Code. If Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc„ is not then in existence and exempt under Section 501(00), then said assets shall be distributed to another organization designated by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, which is organized and operated exclusively for religious purposes and which has established its tax-exempt status under Section 501(ex3) of the Internal Revenue Code. -
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When selling was preaching ...
by Hecce ini am going way, way back.
history reveals that in the beginning the wt was just a publishing house, selling books and magazines; over the years it evolved into what it is today..
the placement of the original publications was mostly done thru sales people masquerading as preachers.
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Haven't found the "sales" report form yet, it may have been tucked away in one of the older books I have. I did find one of those canvas bags with Awake 5¢ on one side and Watchtower 5¢ on the other.
Remeber the chart that hung on the wall in all Kingdom Halls? Had he activity of the congo in black and red(?maybe) numbers. Showed hours etc for each category: Publishers, Pioneers, vacation pioneers. The Circuit Servant (CO) used to open out that board and castigate the sheep for their lack of ... whatever he was trumpeting that visit. Those were the days...I was a book study conductor at 16 and the Bible Study servant at 18 (part of the congregation committee).
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When selling was preaching ...
by Hecce ini am going way, way back.
history reveals that in the beginning the wt was just a publishing house, selling books and magazines; over the years it evolved into what it is today..
the placement of the original publications was mostly done thru sales people masquerading as preachers.
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Somewhere I have a copy of the Field Service report, or whtever it was then called, that has a column or line for "Sales". If I still have it I'll scan it.
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No more doubts for me! Good-bye JWN! We have THE TRUTH!
by DATA-DOG ini could go on and on about my personal journey over the last 2 years or so, but i don't need to.
everything i needed to hear to finally lay my doubts to rest happened on one meeting night.
it could only be divine providence.
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SadElder
Methinks he doth protest too much.
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The watchtower quoting itself as if it were scripture about weddings...
by EndofMysteries inthe 1997 wt, 4/15 page 26 is about weddings and more rules the wt tries to enforce to take the fun out of even weddings.
"while a disfellowshipped person could be allowed to attend the talk at the kingdom hall, the watchtower of april 15, 1984, said: it would be unfitting to have in the wedding party people who are disfellowshipped or whose scandalous life-style grossly conflicts with bible principles.
- isn't that funny?
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This is a constant feature of JW doctrine and rules, quote itself as the authority. As if this gives any real weight to the blather.
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Do you frown upon tattoos?
by confusedandalone ini am very interested in hearing from people who really think that people with tattoos are somehow weird or cagey individuals.
i would just like to get your outlook on this matter.
today i was in a grocery store and i sawe this guy with his two kids and his wife shopping.
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I can only imagine what some of these folks will look like in 20-30 years. Blotched out wrinkled tats and droopy ear holes. Spare me.
Get 'em if you must.
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Please don't take the mick....but I got disfellowshipped for kneeing an elder in the nads
by outinthemeadows inan elder in my congregation got on my nerves because he kept putting his arm around me and i'd asked him to stop.
a few weeks later he did the same thing again so i used my knee against his micro-penis.
a judicial committee was formed even though i was being sexually harrassed by this octapus of an elder.
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SadElder
Did you call the police and give a statement about your fears of sexual harassment?
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Death Of Print Update
by metatron inhttp://gawker.com/new-york-magazine-begins-to-give-up-on-print-1474820408.
little by little....... print media is dying.
i understand the head of buzzfeed asserted that 'there are no new newspaper subscribers being born', statistically speaking.. metatron.
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SadElder
Being the itinerate techno geek of course I have e-readers....but - I miss holding some of my favorite mags and flipping back and forth as I read a particular article. PC Magazine and PC World both are now digital only. A number of other journals we subscribe to are also digital only. It is nice to have finger tip access to hoards of professional infomation and journals. Despite all this I think something is still missing not having the print in your hand. I miss it already.
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Gerrit Losch was actually once an apostate.
by Julia Orwell ina jw friend of mine (who was one of my besties until i told him i didn't believe jw religion anymore) used to live in austria and for a while in the 70's was in the same congregation as losch.
they used to spend some time together in the ministry.
my jw friend tells me that he and losch used to often talk about how they believed the wt was wrong about certain interpretations of the bible, for example, how at the time the wt taught that the mustard tree used by jesus in an illustration represented an evil kingdom, and losch and friend didn't think that was right.
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It appears that Loesch thinks of himself as the chief seer for the dubs today.