Simon, you didn't grow up here, and know little about the change in the culture. It's as simple as that, and living a middle-class life in western Canada since you happily arrived, well. I take your opinion FWIW. :)
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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy
by Simon init's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.
we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.
be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.
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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy
by Simon init's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.
we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.
be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.
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As things relate to this case, though, I can see people on both sides getting quite riled up. I'ma gonna just grab a bag of chips (can't eat popcorn like Poopsie ;), and read the discussion. I hope things remain civilized.
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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy
by Simon init's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.
we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.
be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.
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ha! well, there's that, too. ;) Simon, that is also years of working with youth at risk, being a teen and 20-something back when times were a lot different, and living a full and rich life. I ran across many different characters in the past 35 years, and have a lot of tales that could be told, that is true.
As I said on another thread, it's a sad truth that bullies will gravitate to the police force. There are lots of statistics on 'domestic violence' in terms of cops and spousal abuse. The Fifth Estate has done at least one or two programmes this century, on this issue as well. [ EDIT: 'this issue' meaning police and correctional officers' violence / neglect of the mentally ill ]
My anecdotes, as I said in my comment above, are intended to be illustrations. It's tough to be a cop, and that is true. Burnout contributes to a lot of incidents - of course. There is also a significant percentage of BAD COPS.
It's funny, you don't like to hear a reality you don't want to hear. We are all like that, it's a human quality. Do some research - check the studies, instead of trying to push off my comments as irrelevant.
I was dating a guy who wanted his kid to be a cop. So, he finished high school, and 2 years later, was hired. Shazaam. Yes, it is easy to get in. The RCMP has higher standards, but for city cops, and sheriffs, it's just not so.
That's my thinking, Fisherman. *nods head* " outsmart the hunter."
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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy
by Simon init's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.
we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.
be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.
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TheSilence, I agree with what you say, too. I don't mess with police. And I'm white, female and older.
One cold February night, about 2 years ago, I had a new-hire beat cop hassle me because I stepped off the curb a second before the light changed to green. It was -20C, and the downtown was empty. He went up one side of me, an older grey-haired woman delivering medicine to her sick friend, and down the other - for what? His partner stood by, embarrassed, looking at the ground and keeping herself distanced. I said "yes, sir", "no, sir" and gave him the apology he demanded for DARING to jaywalk (well, kinda) on a frigid winter's eve.
He was smirking. But I just took the high road, and, in this case, I believe the wiser choice. To keep my mouth shut and realize that he is an asshole and not worth getting myself arrested over.
I relate the personal experience to illustrate how cautious I feel any citizen has to be around the police nowadays. If I were 18, African-Canadian, and 6'4", I would go about securing my civil liberties via having friends record rude cops, legal protest, etc. Not by robbing a convenience store and then tackling an officer on duty. Brazen? Sure. But just . not . logical! (ie, without making a judgment call about his behaviour,,, it just doesn't make sense? Did he grow up in America?)
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UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR - GB Member DF
by notsurewheretogo indid you see the post on reddit?
unconfirmed naturally and just a rumour but at at one assembly this week it was announced that the 6 members of the gb send their love.. .
there are 7 members of the gb.. .
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"the gibbeering buddies' hahahaha hamsterbait
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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy
by Simon init's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.
we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.
be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.
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lol @ Simon! Haha, okay, true story. It was 1981, I was in my first year of marriage, in the burbs about 20 km outside the city. My ex-hubbie was a pothead, and hey, that was no big deal in the 70s and 80s. Just like the Breakfast Club, there were jocks, stoners, freaks, etc. He hung out with a variety of groups, and was well liked and hard working.
One of our friends was a big weed seller, and his father was the Big Cheese at the local RCMP detachment. The cops never bothered our friend "D", as his business was harmless. Once a year or so, though, they would drag him down to the detachment and hold him overnight for a medium to fair beating - just for being a rotten cop's kid.A friend of my parents', an elder, called the RCMP one night about a prowler. This was in the country - they showed up 1/2 hour later, and the officer was so drunk he had to hold onto the car door to remain standing.
In the past 10 years, at least 2 officers in my city were found guilty of coercing prostitutes into giving them oral sex in lieu of being arrested.
A google search will reveal how cops in Canada treat the mentally ill, but here there was at least one case. The local police arrested a man who was (a) known to be a person dealing with schizophrenia (b) known to be non violent, even when having a psychotic break. This was in the news. They threw him, head first, into the paddy wagon, and he died of head injuries. Another man died in the local jail recently - he also was known to have MI and other physical problems, and left in his cell instead of being retained in the hospital. There was a big inquiry about that one.
So, no Boss Hogg. :P We Canadians can get a bit smug sometimes. Yes, we have gun control (hooray!), and not as much 'death-by-cop', but hey, neither you nor I live in Toronto (shudders), Vancouver or Montreal, where the big-time players are operating. And as for our police, meh.
Lots of stuff goes on ....
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Edit: I realize the term "paddy wagon" is not PC, and my apologies to anyone of Irish heritage who takes objection to the term.
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if tomorrow dozens of jws learned of ttatt
by sowhatnow inand they left the congregations, would you then feel open to be thier friends?.
many on here have the same complaint, that in the jw congregations, there were clickes, no one had time for each other,.
people judged, there was a lack of association, freindship , true concern and love were lacking.
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MissFit said,
Just because someone learns TTATT does not automatically make them a likeable or better person. Hopefully it will expand thier horizons but sometimes they trade one prison for another.
So true. They are like "dry drunks" who no longer drink, but retain their former abusive behaviours. It's an important thing to keep in mind: people are people. Someone may also be an exJW and you can relate on certain unique issues, but that does not mean they will be a 'good friend' or that they have the same moral compass.
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Fibroids UK.
by quellycatface ini have just had a radiology appt where i was told i had fibroids.
great.. i had a mirena coil fitted 2 months ago to control heavy and prolonged periods, suffering for about 14 months.. i wonder what my gp will suggest now??.
i'm gutted.. thanks for listening.
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Well, now that you know the cause of the problems, you can work with your doctor to find your best options. Perhaps a referral to a OBGYN is in order. That would certainly be my choice. My GP has always sent me to a Gynecologist, because of my younger uterine cancer problem. It's good to get things checked by a specialist.
All the best!
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Attracting young ones to the org
by Gratefullyunstuck innoticing a lot of posts and behaviours of the org that they seem to be trying to appeal to the younger generation.
im wondering if they are jumping on the back of a popular young clothing brand called jack wills.. a lot of their clothes have jw logo on them.
i wonder when searching this logo 'jw' on internet, where the search takes them?....................hmmmmmm!.
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My first prediction: youth camps may follow.
I noticed that a lot of Xtian fundamentalist church groups have huge youth gatherings, sometimes in my city. Hundreds were here last summer for a week, from some church I never even heard of. I spoke with a couple of them downtown, and they just love it. All 'associating' with other 'Christian youth', blah, blah.
Anyhoo, could be the next step. They've tried home-schooling, and from what I've heard, that was an abysmal failure.
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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy
by Simon init's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.
we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.
be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.
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V, I just thought the comparison of Canadian police forces as "better" was laughable. I've known good cops, too, when in the pawn business and in my personal life - and the good ones, are great. In 35 years, though, I've seen too much of the other to be rah rah about any police force. That's life. :)
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