james penton is he still alive?
my wife left me his book but i've not found anything else on him.
does he post somewhere?.
I haven't seen him post on Facebook in a while, though I've not been on much myself.
Thanks, Van, for the update.
Blessings and much love sent to Dr. Penton. He is an honest man, and was the only source for me when I left the JWS, before WWW and the internet. I say "honest" because his father was a 'higher'up' in the b'Org, and he had the courage, way back then, to go against a 3/4th gen family. I respect the hell out of him.
xo
my father served in the second world war.
he served in the south pacific.
he loved his time in the military and my mother was more than supporting.
May I suggest that you turn off the TV and if you're on Facebook, turn to your nature groups! It's D-Day and there is a lot of stories that are triggering you.
I *do* believe that, and have been missing my Aunt SO MUCH the past couple of weeks, for a personal reason, but you know what?
She is in my heart - she is encouraging me, and saying "I will be with you". Also, I choose to celebrate the fact that I was always good to her, and she to me. I celebrate her strength, and draw on it some days.
It's okay, you'll figure it out. (HUGS)
xo
earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.
- today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.
not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.
That is so great to read. You brought a tear to my eye, truly. Keep on learning and growing, and good for you!
:sparkler: :fireworks: :fireworks: :books:
(trying a few emoticons here! lol! Happy for you BB! xoxo)
when it finally clicked,.
and you realized there was no 1914, there was no generation that would see the end of a wicked system, there was no paradise around the corner, .
what went through you mind?.
s this the fruit of evolution? Is this what lurkers should look forward to? Dark days in sad thought with no hope?
I see no benefit to atheism.
Ah, you need to work on your reading comprehension.
This thread is about betrayal, and the loss of one's faith in the "One True Organization", NOT atheism or loss of faith in God.
: )
..that the governing body are only in it for money and power?.
how many of you think the gb are all/some are sincere?.
okay, i know this has been asked before but i can't find the thread and there are newbies here.....and i like the sound of my own voice.
Magnum, this is quite recent. Up until the past 2 or 3 years, the only GB members' names that I knew were of course the Franz Brothers, and Nathan Knorr (who was the King when I was a child).
Now, there are constant threads - pinkie rings, really? Why make these men famous? That means they are winning, because they are the centre of our thoughts.............. that is how insidious this type of thinking can be.
Every hour that is spent obsessing on some middle-aged guy's pinkie ring, is an hour that is lost forEVER. I'd rather be watching clouds ......... : )
when it finally clicked,.
and you realized there was no 1914, there was no generation that would see the end of a wicked system, there was no paradise around the corner, .
what went through you mind?.
Now a new wife and daughter, let's say I'll have another 35 years to live, but why keep on living?
Because you have family, and love! If nothing else, make a list of those who would miss you when you were gone. This was enormously helpful to me, in my darkest hours. Yes, people will say "learn to love yourself and life" and that is true - one of my therapists suggested the list, though, to make me remember that I *do* count ...as do YOU! x o
punkofnice, I so understand. Keep playing music - got my guitar out last week, after a year. xo
..that the governing body are only in it for money and power?.
how many of you think the gb are all/some are sincere?.
okay, i know this has been asked before but i can't find the thread and there are newbies here.....and i like the sound of my own voice.
I agree fulano - the USA is culturally obsessed with fame, and I've seen a real trend towards making these individuals 'infamous'. I mean, it's true that the polygamists and moonies, jonestown, etc. gets all the fame - so the exJWs want some. It is carried over from the JW days, when we all oohed and ahhed over 'famous' JWs. Meh.
Which, imho, plays right into their hands - who? WHO are these men? Nobody, that's who. :)
..that the governing body are only in it for money and power?.
how many of you think the gb are all/some are sincere?.
okay, i know this has been asked before but i can't find the thread and there are newbies here.....and i like the sound of my own voice.
And they are just the Board of Directors, so to speak - we don't know 'who' owns the assets.
Hi, you! ((Unky))
the parody video is being released before the "official" release on sunday!.
video being re-edited...stand by.. edit: here is the re-cut with wingcommander's excellent input.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5h1cj527s4.
With every thread focused on these assholes, you give away your power.
Do they still rule your life/? NO? If not, then why do you feel the need to keep inserting them and their religion into our forum? HMMM?
BLECH! Let go,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
threads on the newer jw face of public "witnessing" have shared in common the astonishment that jws safely park themselves behind their literature trolleys and exercise incredibly little contact with passersby.
whether the poster is talking about europe or the united states or australia, descriptions here are the same.. literature stands are protective sheilds behind which jws huddle, talking to each other, sipping on their espressos, whilst the disinterested world passes by.
neither the jws nor the passersby catch each others eyes.
Aaackkkk! Truthseeker, that is an earworm ....... noooooooo!
:P
