Posts by talesin

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I saw some witnesses today...

by Garrett in

jw
friends

gossiping.

yep, that's right!

so, i'm sitting outside a building, waiting for my martial arts class to begin when two sisters walk down the road leading to the building.

talesin

Well, when people have no life of their own, they will tend to gossip about others. It's so sad, hey? They have NO inner llife.

xo

t

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Education makes you leave God

by FusionTheism in

quote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".

higher education often makes them lose their love for god..

Exactly. It's the 21st century; it's the age of information. How can you love something that you know is a fiction? Except in the sentimental way that you love Tinkerbell or Santa, even though, as a grown-up, you know they are not real.

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i committed the unforgiveable sin

by 060702015 in

everyday i wake up with knots in my stomach and trouble breathing.

my life continues to go into a downward spiral.

in the past, i had my dependence on god.

talesin

Hi, there, 060702015

I can see you are in a lot of distress! And for good reason. First off, try taking a deep breath........ < breathe in, breathe out > Nice and slow, and do that a few times.

Okay, phew, calm out a bit. Realize that you, in this moment, are okay. You can take a bit of time to settle down and chill.

Now. Yes, things are a mess. The thing is, that messes can get cleaned up. Some take longer than others, but with persistence, and hard work, it gets done.

For the moment, KNOW that you can turn life around and make it better - get through THIS moment. Today. You have support - you are NOT alone. Realize that you matter to people, and not just strangers on the internet.

KNOW that you are important, you are worthwhile, and dammit, it's just not fair! That's understood. Now, consider yourself hugged (if that is ok with you, if not, a firm squeeze to your shoulder!), and also know that it's okay to feel this pain. It's real, and natural.

Next step,,, figure out where to go from here.

xo Be a thriver!

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My Parents Lost Forever?

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

jw
friends

my father served in the second world war.

he served in the south pacific.

he loved his time in the military and my mother was more than supporting.

talesin

I hope you are having some happier moments today!

That advice I gave, was from my former therapist about 9/11. I had seen it in real-time, and many months after, was still having nightmares and such. She suggested that I stop watching the news, as it was triggering me ,,, and it worked! Glad I could pass on that tip to you.

It's a valid thing, to mourn, to grieve. Important to realize, though, that the continued reliving of traumatic events through the media, can have an huge effect on our psychological well-being.

Love and light to you! xx

tal :sunglasses:

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

I'm a student of psychology as well, through 15 years of therapy! ahaha, but I will say that my last 2 therapists said I could hang out my own shingle and do quite well.

So, as to the OP, and interesting comments since~! It's hard to stimulate discussion on a philosophical issue here, because exJWs tend to see the world in black and white. Thus, my comment, Philosophy 101, begin! I can't really contribute to that discussion (been there, done that).

Now, I must wonder why a student of psychology would start such an OP. Two guesses ..... (1) writing a paper and looking for fodder for said paper, and (2) stirring the pot.

Whichever ... or any other reason .. matters not. The question is, have you presented an OP that even begs a question or discussion? Perhaps more clarification is required? Or perhaps you are just lazily starting something up so that you can play word games with people. *grins*

carry on

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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?

by Doltologist in

i can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.

i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.

after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.

talesin

To the OP, I don't get it, either~! Which is why I don't have any contact with them. Zip, nil, nada!

And, haha, jovie world, gotta like that one, I will have to tell my roomie! I call them JoHo's, which I have EARNED the RIGHT to call them whatever I please, and so have you.

xx

tal :sunglasses:

*Ex-JoHo, and born in Jovie World class

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

Well, that clarifies the OP's intent ....... refer to my first answer. Philosophy 101, begin!

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Anybody have any experience with this?

by stillin in

an elderly sister passed away recently.

family came to her memorial service from all over the country.

some of them, including grown-up, disfellowshipped children of hers, also came.

talesin

It's very strange that they *want* us (DF people) to come to funerals...OOPS! "memorial services" (for the 'witness', of course), but my family will dis-invite me to weddings. Oh, yes, so-and-so is getting married, but of course you can't come. Quite frankly, they want us to share their pain, but not their joy.

Let's analyze it. So, I go to the funeral home for my grampy's visitation, and my aunt rushes up and hugs me (after 15 years of shunning) "Oh, we miss you so much!"

Me, stiff as a bloody board, and not returning the faux hug. "This is grampy's funeral. And if you miss me, well, my number is in the book."

For moi, it's not worth it. I would rather grieve alone than deal with the lying, emotional vampires that are JWS.

xo

tal :sunglasses:

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

I was speaking philosophically, but......... after I wrote that, got to thinking about zenophobia and isolationism.

An airliner went down a few miles from here. It was carrying about 300 people, valuable art, and cash. It was an huge news story ... HUGE ... that went on for months, and years, to be honest.

Yet, 30,000 people die in India, and we get one story.

So, looking at the OP in more practical terms, I guess we can be quite egocentric. And easily led (by our parents, religions, media, corporations, etc.)

:sunglasses:

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

What if life is a dream, and our dreams are the reality?

:sunglasses: