NN - well, how cool is THAT? : D
I know what you mean. He is just brilliant, and raised by a single mom. I was impressed by his great love for his mother, and family, as well as his business acumen.
from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.
beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.
i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .
NN - well, how cool is THAT? : D
I know what you mean. He is just brilliant, and raised by a single mom. I was impressed by his great love for his mother, and family, as well as his business acumen.
i could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.
we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.
we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!
I know. They came after me, years later. My family pushed for them to pursue it, I think, in hopes that DFing me would make me come back. haha, WRONG.
But yeah, it kinda feels like your head is gonna explode, right?
They are also 'clamping down' on JW relatives who talk to DF family members. : (
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i've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
Hi! Perhaps you don't realize how big a task the ARC has undertaken. They are reviewing not just the JWS, but many organizations or groups. So the JWS are just one small part of the Commission's mission.
Unlike the JWS and their judicial procedures, the ARC has to interview expert witnesses, survivors of the abuse, and the Watchtower representatives. Everything has to be clear and detailed - if it's not, the JWS can use any mistakes or lack of information to wriggle out of their responsibility.
Yes, it takes a long time. And though it would be wonderful if the ARC could lay charges, they can only make recommendations about what needs to be done to protect the children.
I hope that helps with understanding the process a little better. And no, it's not Jehovah helping them - it's just the way things work. xx tal
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Edited to say: David Graham - without a doubt, you are correct, sir! Just like other corporate executives, they have a 'Board of Directors' and 'shareholders' to answer to. Whoever, and whatever, they may be.
i could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.
we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.
we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!
Another ex-witness told me there was a two year rule and after that they would leave you alone...anyone heard of that?
They are wrong. There is no time limit if you are baptized. Whether or not they come after you, is up to the local BOE and maybe the CO.
during the talk delivered by stephen lett in our last assembly, he talked about brothers who serve despite their frail health.
he said "one of the gb members, whom i work with every day, is 80 years old and has been a diabetic for the last 30".. give a peak into how well they are tended to and how someone that age would not dare to let go of the power that keeps him alive..
LostandFound - agreed. It's more how I see them. But of course, the 'rules' rarely apply to those at the bottom, do they? That is a reality of life, and never more true than in the bOrg. xx : )
i have a friend who has been inactive for going over 2 years.
him and his wife split, she stayed a jw and he left and lived with a worldly girl.
he timed it so that he was officially inactive by the time him and his wife split.
He cut JW land cold turkey when they split. His wife was hell bent on getting him DF. She showed the elders letters that showed he had a gf and did everything possible. She also showed other pieces of "evidence". The elders tried getting him in the hall to "talk" but he dodged it every time, never stepping foot in a hall. The elders finally told her that he is not accepting the Christian authority arrangement so there is nothing they can do
That's a lie. They can DF in absentia.
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Is his family 'connected'? That would be my guess.
during the talk delivered by stephen lett in our last assembly, he talked about brothers who serve despite their frail health.
he said "one of the gb members, whom i work with every day, is 80 years old and has been a diabetic for the last 30".. give a peak into how well they are tended to and how someone that age would not dare to let go of the power that keeps him alive..
If they"retire" COs at 70 what have G B got that is so special? Herd is well past the limit.
In a corporation, members of the Board of Directors are not subject to the same rules as employees.
from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.
beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.
i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .
Speaking of K*I*S*S, did anyone mention that we were told it meant Knights In Service of Satan? Ahahaha!
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Gene Simmons, really? He's a financially astute man, who at a tender age, decided he wanted two things - money and lots of women. Looked around and said "ROCK AND ROLL!" It's as simple as that. Alice Cooper inspired him (as he tells it, with Paul Stanley) to go for theatre in a big way.
And the biggest power-chord band was born. The first boy band? Um.. nope .. Jackson 5 and the Osmond Brothers are the usual ones we think of. But boy bands don't play instruments, and lol, they don't 'do' R&R.
As for the Hall of Fame - that's all about politics, and it's Hollywood, mang. It's BS ........ I think K*I*S*S deserves to be there, because they helped to popularize glam rock (no, they are not great musicians nor song writers, but that's okay - music is not about the technical, it's about how you FEEL!). Should they have been inducted before the great ones like Deep Purple (we are not worthy) and Led Zep and a host of others? Hell, no. But you'll not find a better wheeler-dealer than Gene Simmons. He is a super intelligent man - lol, his wife is Canadian, he knows a smart gurl when he sees one (snaps to Shannon Tweed). Don't blame K*I*S*S, blame the establishment. They are just playing the game well.
Beth Sarim - def leppard............mmmm! Love that band.
over the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.
but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.
one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!
I've read some of her work, she's awesome, and great for anyone who is in therapy and healing. Great vid.
My favorite expression is "At least you don't have cancer." No matter what your health problem or quality of life is. Yep, that's a real comfort. NOT
new watchtower movie review for those interested.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggj7rlof1o8.
I had to watch this movie last night, after seeing snippets in your review (well done!). They should have gotten Kirk Cameron to play the dad, haha. The WT propaganda is surely changing to suit the times, and resembles American evangelicals more than anything else.