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  What the freak was this on Facebook?

  by Sugar Shane in

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  i just saw a video on fb, posted by a jw, which shows a bunch of kids singing to some recorded orchestral backup.

  it was recorded last saturday, or sunday.,.

  it almost looks like the kind of sunday school sing-a-long that you'd find at a 'normal' church.

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  talesin

  Have you seen the "Happy at Bethel" video? :D

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwKdMjA2Y_I
  
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  Favorite Music Video

  by WildTurkey in

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  what is your favorite music video?

  after shes my cherry pie, i like foo fighters learn to fly

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  Wow, I've been listening to women artists on youtube, and LONG before Elvis and even Carl Perkins, we know there was Howlin' Wolf, Chuck Berry et al, but holy smoke!
  
  Sister Rosetta Tharpe was a rocker (gospel+blues=r&r) back in the 40s. Here's one of her vids (not sure of the date), and she can play that ax. (Other vids and a couple of documentaries about her on youtube.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR2gR6SZC2M
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  Instruction Manual for Life

  by skeeter1 in

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  i saw this on another jw forum, and thought it summed me (and likely you) up without using religion or jws.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaiprrzvnjg.

  instruction manual for life [cc] 40 videos subscribe603,832 like add to share uploaded by theramintrees on dec 22, 2008. piano score written/performed by qualiasoup.

  http://www.youtube.com/qualiasoup.

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  talesin

  I have my two of my own, and they are always on the shelf of 'reading room' material if a visitor wishes to peruse them.  *I kid you not*  Oh, and a volume of Frost as well, for those more pastoral moments.  : )

  I have the paper back version of this,

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  And the hard cover of this,

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  "A new handbook for the perplexed."
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  Anti-Gay Cartoon Still Making Rounds: George Takei weighs in

  by freemindfade in

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  i also heard the video was being discussed on howard stern today.

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  The term is now used -- quite incorrectly by people in general -- to mean advocating a bad cause or injuring a cause by endorsing it. Sadly, these egregious usages have become accepted. -- A DICTIONARY OF CONTEMPORARY AMERICAN USAGE, Evans and Evans, page 133

  I have to agree, CoCo, that is quite shocking. The term is "playing" the Devil's Advocate, is it not? The true meaning is quite obvious.  xx t 
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  Anti-Gay Cartoon Still Making Rounds: George Takei weighs in

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
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  i also heard the video was being discussed on howard stern today.

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  initially no, but those who work with or go to school with the LBGT community may have to have uncomfortable discussions about this. They may not feel as passive towards witnesses as they once did. Because it isn't a watchtower quote about god not approving of homosexuality, its a cartoon that addresses gay marriage in a specific way.
  By putting this in a cartoon, they have chosen a very offensive medium (kids cartoon) for delivering their doctrine, also one that is easily spread. I don't care what HQ thinks about it or most R&F, I like to think that those who would normally say they know witnesses and they never hurt anybody start to see witnesses as more overtly harmful going forward.

  I've been reading most of the articles posted in news and blogs (certainly, all links I can find on this forum, and others). Most stories are repetitive, but the Comments sections show a sometimes visceral reaction. You, fmf, have already described how some folks (gay, some nongay Xtians) are reacting. Some are okay with it, others are horrified. Yes, the message of this video is waking up some 'worldly' people to the insidious evil that is JW.
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  I'm getting baptized

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

  my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

  i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

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  BW, I was in a similar position. At 14, my parents took me out of school (high school, not enough control for them!), and shortly after, I was dunked. I was completely isolated and at their mercy.

  Do what you need to do, love your horses, draw strength from your relationship with them (they are real, living and breathing, and have true emotions). from the joy of riding, and they will sense how you feel. You only have 2 years to go, if you have to, get baptized, worry about it later. It sounds like they will shun you when you leave the religion, whether you are baptized or not. Much love to you. xx tal
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  Angst and the Jehovah's Witness Mindset

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  there is no typical jw personality type.. any of us who were in the religion for a number of years will remember all sorts of individuals.

  there is as much variety among jws as there is in the general population.

  some were arrogant and judgemental but others were humble and kindly.

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  No but that wasn't my point.

  Thank you for pointing out my egregious error. I had misread so many of the others' comments about retaining this attitude. How stupid of me. I'm so sorry. OOPS.
  
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  Angst and the Jehovah's Witness Mindset

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is no typical jw personality type.. any of us who were in the religion for a number of years will remember all sorts of individuals.

  there is as much variety among jws as there is in the general population.

  some were arrogant and judgemental but others were humble and kindly.

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  Happiness is a choice. Part of the deprogramming needs to be focused on how to change your outlook to positive.

  Many people experience angst nowadays (in western culture). It has become a hallmark of the American landscape because of 9/11 and the way it has been handled. Negativity can be found anywhere if you look for it. It's better to see life in a positive light, and work towards changing the negative.

  Do exJWs exhibit over-exaggerated qualities of angst? From reading this board, if that is a true barometer, I would say no more or less than the average person. It all depends on your locale and social set. If you live in Detroit, and are from a steelworker's family, well, you may be experiencing that feeling. And I can't blame you.

  Read "The Catcher in the Rye" by J.D. Salinger. It's all about the subject, and many-layered, which is why it's such a famous novel. Education is a wonderful thing.

  We, as a group, are generally a positive bunch. This would make a good 'local needs' talk, though! LOL! :P
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  JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

  by Gorbatchov in

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  various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

  and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

  are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

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  Muslims throw their gay men from tall buildings.

  Speaking of hyperbole ...

  Sounds like the JWS to me - publicly condemn (punishable by figurative 'death' of banishment), yet there is a double standard.   Throwing them off tall buildings ... y-e-e-es,, I see what you mean .... 

  From The Atlantic

  http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/05/the-kingdom-in-the-closet/305774/

  This legal and public condemnation notwithstanding, the kingdom leaves considerable space for homosexual behavior. As long as gays and lesbians maintain a public front of obeisance to Wahhabist norms, they are left to do what they want in private. Vibrant communities of men who enjoy sex with other men can be found in cosmopolitan cities like Jeddah and Riyadh. They meet in schools, in cafés, in the streets, and on the Internet. “You can be cruised anywhere in Saudi Arabia, any time of the day,” said Radwan, a 42-year-old gay Saudi American who grew up in various Western cities and now lives in Jeddah. “They’re quite shameless about it.” Talal, a Syrian who moved to Riyadh in 2000, calls the Saudi capital a “gay heaven.”
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  New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

  disgusting!.

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  talesin

  That's really because what you said is incorrect and irrelevant.
  Surely the WatchTower's position and whether that is "news" is what this is all about?

  Really? So they do not believe that you can 'commit' adultery in your heart, and that Jehovah judges your desires?

  And my friend's suicide note means nothing to you, obviously.  

  Once again, it's WTS double-speak. "We will accept you, as long as you don't commit the physical act." and OTOH "You are judged for your secret desires". (eg, masturbating to a famous celebrity - man-to-man)
  
  Let's see the change in doctrine.  (rhetorical, I don't care, and neither does anyone else)