a thought occurred that there is a danger in thinking we know everything, or have it all figured out in life.
especially when it comes to matters of doctrine or faith.. witnesses (or at least the society as a whole) are so self-confident, so proud to be the only ones who know "the truth" about everything to do with the universe, the earth, our past and our future, that pride kicks in.
and pride is dangerous...(.and before a fall).
May I add, that posters who are dogmatic, and choose to plague every thread that could be remotely connected to the topic about which they are dogmatic, can be disruptive, and purposely have derailed many a thread. It's akin to a dog, snapping at everyone who comes within reach of its leash. ('dog', get it?) OTOH, it can be like taking candy from a baby, if you choose to be easily amused. hehe.
Oh, the term dogma need not refer to religion.
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now, calls for better organization, or just organization period, have often been brought up on this site, by those whose lives have been affected by this cult.
Village, roger that.
Umm, Mitchum is one of my fav. film stars, so yes. I don't mean to negate your efforts, but please understand that these kind of posts, have indicated in the past, some off-the-wall, unfortunately misguided efforts that resulted in people being hurt I'm very cautious about any involvement with the "VAA", and rightly so. New folks should be aware of the fact that, if they become involved in any exJW 'movement' organization, they risk having their identity being revealed.
I don't 'know' who you are, but can't trust any anonymous person who is pushing activism. Too many innocent people have been burned in the past by joining the AAWA, and I do NOT trust this leadership. No offense intended. xx
zazzle has packets of 20 for just over $5 usd.
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now, calls for better organization, or just organization period, have often been brought up on this site, by those whose lives have been affected by this cult.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil.
For I am the meanest sob in the valley.
That's what your avatar reminds me of. Ack, the militant exJW movement. No thanks; you are not the 82nd Airborne. Your militant avatar and 'handle' says it all to me - "Danger Will Robinson, Danger! Angry, don't-know-what-they-are-doing, exJWs on the rampage".
No thanks. xx tal
how in the world did they justify this torture?
imagine the children forced to sit in the summer heat at yankee stadium for 12 hours a day.
for 8 days.
Mark Twain quote " that the coldest winter he ever knew was a summer in San Francisco".
Not Mark Twain. It's also been attributed to Hemingway and several others. The origin is unknown, but may be Coleridge..
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/30/coldest-winter/
When I first read this quote, many years ago, I thought it was a joke. Haha, a bit of damp, and it's such a hardship? ahaha, live in my city, further north, but with the same fog and weather types. San Fran, you are a bunch of soft kitties. : P
how in the world did they justify this torture?
imagine the children forced to sit in the summer heat at yankee stadium for 12 hours a day.
for 8 days.
I was at the 1963 convention at Yankee Stadium, NYC. I was 5 YO. My mother had me on a leash, and I can remember baking in the bleachers at Yankee Stadium (bad memory). Also, the 'lead' speaker on Sunday - was a raving lunatic, scary to my 5YO sensibilities. Was it Franz or Knorr? My 5YO brain says "Knorr", but that was a long time ago.
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/jehovahs-witnesses-take-over-yankee-stadium
you will remember the frequent exhortations to "maintain loyalty" to jehovah..a thinly disguised instruction to never question the wts.
wt (simplified) 7/15 2011 pp10-16.
"8] no matter what false teachers say, we will not follow them!
To the OP, BB. I instantly thought of the expression "loyal to a fault". That would describe one of my parents, and I've learned that sometimes it's good to examine who and what you are loyal to, and perhaps change that focus to another purpose. It's good to be faithful, loyal - it's a sign of a good friend. Once you find out that the object of your trust is false, it's time to let go of being loyal to them. xx tal
so i am having a bit of an issue at work and has been bothering me for a while.
first, you may need to know a bit about the organizational structure that i am dealing with.
there is our coo (chief op officer).
It's business. You can't play nice.
I had to chuckle at WWFD, because I thought of Farkel, who was a friend here, and has now passed. Farkel would say "Don't let them get you! Play their game and WIN!"
Politics at work, for me, is the worst. I'm not good at it, either. I wish you the best and if you are *that* good at your job, as an administrator or scientist, you CAN weather this storm! Thinking of you ... xo tal
hello girls !.
i ve been reading you all many times , and from many years ..... i am sure my english is getting better and better because of you !
i am from france, no sorry , from "small brittany " ...so what ?
Your english communication is great! Like you, I was 'born in' the JW. It is hard to be 'cast out' at 20, and I understand. You are still young, though, and have the time to create a new life for yourself.
Are you in Europe, or another part of the world? Let us know; we have members worldwide, and there will be suggestions and ways that others will know, that can help you to have a better life. xo tal
in my book, i wept by the rivers of babylon, i described the process of having a friend, johnny santa cruz, use our friendship as a platform for converting me to a jehovah's witness.. that friendship cost me decades of my life in bondage to a cult.. the friendship was real and johnny and i bonded for life.
but, the religion eventually turned him into a stone silence toward me--his oldest friend.
now he is dead and the imaginary reunion and meeting of the minds is no longer a possibility.. this makes his passing a double tragedy.. his memories were my memories.
Terry,
I wrote you a little poem and it was on your original thread. I'll put a link to that thread at the bottom of my post; it may help you access. There are three threads, and yeah, the board has a few glitches with some of us older posters.
I hope you are doing okay, and have lots of support 'in person'. Thinking of you. xx tal
,
AFF
I missed you, friend,
For many years.
Now that your're gone,
Can't stop the tears.
A friend forever.
~ Jenn
xo
anna marie "patty" duke (december 14, 1946 – march 29, 2016) she won an academy award for best supporting actress at 16 for her role in"the miracle worker," starred in the sitcom "the patty duke show," etc.
she wasdiagnosed with bipolar disorder in 1982 after which she had devoted much of hertime to educating the public on mental health issues such as with twobooks--"call me anna" and "brilliant madness: living with manic depressive ill-ness.
" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/patty_duke
I remember seeing her in the Miracle Worker - both times. Her 'coming out' about living with bi-polar dis ease was a big deal - she was one of the first people to put a face on this destructive illness, RIP xx
