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  Shunning and Laws against incitement to hatred based on Race and Religion

  by AlanB in

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  in the uk we have a law that seeks to protect against incitement of racial or religious hatred.

  i think this may be a european law and so the scope may be a lot wider.

  it is clear that the wtbs policy on da/df people is incitement and it may be argued that it is on the basis of religious views.

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  badolputtytat

  One could certainly argue for this, but it would be a bad argument because it would be tantamount to arguing that any and all criticism of anything amounts to inciting hatred or discrimination. It is not "inciting hatred" to tell a story about one's perceived abuse by an organization. It is not discriminatory to point out the flaws in an organization.

  AlanF

  You are of course right Alan F. I just didn't understand if this law (which I still dont know the specifics of) would be a help to a Disfellowshipped witness? It seems that the law would more protect a witness from being discriminated against by NON witnesses... not a discrimination within this organisation...(which Mustang seems to have a handle on).

  I dunno.... I would like to see this law word for word.

  ---puttytat
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  Shunning and Laws against incitement to hatred based on Race and Religion

  by AlanB in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the uk we have a law that seeks to protect against incitement of racial or religious hatred.

  i think this may be a european law and so the scope may be a lot wider.

  it is clear that the wtbs policy on da/df people is incitement and it may be argued that it is on the basis of religious views.

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  badolputtytat

  I would like to know more about the specifics of this law... but it sounds like something that could be used BY the witnesses, rather than AGAINST them.

  I mean, one could argue(and some have) that this web-site is inciting "hatred" or "discrimination" against the dubs.

  Would be awful if Simon, was put on Britains "ten most wanted criminals" list for inciting "religous Hatred". (you baaad ol puttytat)

  Again, I don't know the specifics, but it is an interesting topic to investigate. I always wondered why none of the child "welfare" laws applied, to where you are going with this though.

  --puttytat
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  What was your biggest pet peeve at the Kingdom Hall ???

  by run dont walk in

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  was there anything in particular that drove you nuts at the kingdom hall ??

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  badolputtytat

  This.....

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/48132/1.ashx

  ---puttytat
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  JWs at my door ... FINISHED the STORY !!

  by Amazing in

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  [now for the rest of the story ... it begans again below with ### in front of the continuation] .

  well, well, well ... well, well ... well, uhmmmmm ... this ought to be good .

  these two ladies were standing there ... one was obviously an elder's wife ... say late 40s ... likely aux.

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  ok so I fell asleep waiting for you to type this up.... but your name suits you Amazing.... You handled this very well, and hopefully they will both look into their "beliefs" a little deeper. I haven't reached the stage of throwing any doubt onto them yet, but when I do, I hope I can remain as calm and well put together as you did..

  Thanx for the experience.
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  How would you explain jws to a non-jw?

  by Gadget in

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  in the past, when i've been talking about being a witness they haven't really understood just how much of an impact it has on your life unless they've been one too.

  whats the best way to explain it to someone who has never been a witness and had little contact with them?

  i'm more thinking of how much control there is over your life, and the reason why a lot of witnesses feel down and suffer from depression, ect.. gadget

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  badolputtytat

  A lot of good descriptions so far... but Mr. Lebowski seems to have a good angle. Very Good List Lebowski....

  ... and welcome to the forum btw

  --puttytat
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  JWs at my door ... FINISHED the STORY !!

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
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  [now for the rest of the story ... it begans again below with ### in front of the continuation] .

  well, well, well ... well, well ... well, uhmmmmm ... this ought to be good .

  these two ladies were standing there ... one was obviously an elder's wife ... say late 40s ... likely aux.

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  badolputtytat

  Great.... I have just sat by my computer for three hours waiting for your name to pop up... I wanna hear this!
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  How would you explain jws to a non-jw?

  by Gadget in

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  in the past, when i've been talking about being a witness they haven't really understood just how much of an impact it has on your life unless they've been one too.

  whats the best way to explain it to someone who has never been a witness and had little contact with them?

  i'm more thinking of how much control there is over your life, and the reason why a lot of witnesses feel down and suffer from depression, ect.. gadget

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  badolputtytat

  I was about to post this very question. I am taking my wife this weekend to meet my parents for the first time after many years. I have tried to explain it to her, and she listens whole-heartedly....

  I try to tell her that one cannot simply read a scripture to a JW and expect that to get through to them. Nor can you simply say to a JW..."Sorry I have my own religion". I told her how they go to meetings on wed/thurs night and learn how to "comeback" to every answer you give them.

  My wife just doesnt understand the concept of living in the same house with your parents and not being allowed to talk to your little sister, or the fact that I am not welcome to actually come into my parents home.... (we are meeting in a Hotel, so I don't taint the christian home)

  But I had to have a talk with my father, about not bringing up religion on this little weekend venture. Of course I want him to approve of my wife, she is lovely... but she might eat him for breakfast if he suggests that I bring our son into this thing, or even suggests that Christmas is wrong... the wife spends about three-thousand dollars on my son every christmas... she LIVES to see the smile on his face. (yes he is a spoiled "only" child... and I for one am quite happy that he will never know the life I had to live when I was his age)

  Interesting replies here though.
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  Urgent: The WTS is using it's website to spread deceit about child abuse.

  by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

  1. watchtower
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  http://www.silentlambs.org/

  http://www.dirtclod.com/

  http://www.watchtower.org .

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  It makes me absolutley sick -- the problem is I just can not read a Watchtower or Awake magazine now with an open mind - I am alwys thinking "What lies am I being told now?"

  Reading the Watchtower with an "open mind" is like walking into a whore-house without a condom.... DON'T DO THAT! And about this thread....I am so happy to see people figure out these things on their own. NOW you know. This deceit thing is not new. Good Work Assassin... now talk about it... to everybody you know. Show it to people, and Talk about it. And when they come to your door... confront them with it. ---puttytat
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  I am a little worried....

  by Ravyn in

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  my mother had ovarian cancer, her mother died of breast cancer, one of my father's sisters had colon cancer.

  i had bleeding every two weeks for about a year myself, and now i have abdominal swelling and kidney pain, difficulty urinating(been blaming the lupus--but none of the tests are showing anything wrong!

  ) i look like i am pregnant the swelling is so bad.. i am having this test done next thursday.

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  badolputtytat

  I am a little worried too......(((((Ravyn)))))

  Do not put this off any-longer... please. Demand a female doctor! This is important. Male doctors are fine for toe-nail fungus, and indigestion... and that is about it, where you ladies are concerned.

  I hope things turn out for the best Ravyn. I will light a candle for you tonight.

  --puttytat
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  Change of "look" after leaving the organization

  by JH in

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  i was wondering how many men here let their beard grow, when they decided to quit the organization.

  since having a beard in the jw's is not permitted, it would seem appropriate to let one's beard grow just to show that we don't go by their rules anymore.

  maybe for others it was growing a mustache or maybe shaving their head.. did you change your "look" right after leaving the organization?.

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  badolputtytat

  I have had exactly two hair-cuts since 1983. (One because I was in a terrible accident and had to have my head shaved for surgery).

  Those OPEY TAYLOR hair-cuts.... I hated them. I used to get beat-up a lot.

  **However, I admit that being in the professional (and worldly) atmosphere, is sometimes hindered by my choice to have extremely long hair.

  When I attend meetings I wear a very tight pony-tail, and while they believe I am sincere in my desire to come back to the "truth"... no one has mentioned me going in service... hmmmmm???? (giggles to myself)

  No beard or facial hair though. My wife says it is better without....... nevermind.