So JWs believe all humans have faults, problems, birth pangs, etc., because we all inherited sin from the original human being Adam. Like I would like this to make sense but why would Jehovah do this to future humans who have done nothing wrong at all? I think of it like if a parent has one child and that child really disobeyed her before then when the parent has a second child, she punishes that child because of what her first did. Now that's not fair at all. Can someone hope to issue some logic to this? I hated how JWs would act like this made perfect sense but never really explained it thoroughly. The explanation was always that since one human sinned, all humans sin. Makes no sense.
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Sin Inherited Humankind
by looter inso jws believe all humans have faults, problems, birth pangs, etc., because we all inherited sin from the original human being adam.
like i would like this to make since but why would jehovah do this to future humans who have done nothing wrong at all?
i think of it like if a parent has one child and that child really disobeyed her before then when the parent has a second child, she punishes that child because of what her first did.
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Things JW's and Atheists have in common
by juandefiero ini was just thinking about something someone said on another thread.
to paraphrase, 'jw beliefs like there being no hellfire, immortal soul, the condition at death...have the ring of truth.'.
i realized, atheists believe these things too!.
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Each has very strong beliefs in what they believe to be right. And they each feel that what they believe in must be right and is what everyone should adhere to. They live their life through what they believe no matter if it hurts others around. -
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Don't know what to do
by looter ini'm in a crazy situation.
about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.
it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.
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Thanks all. Now about my family. I have an aunt and uncle who are jw and are very close with my father. They usually are the ones who stop my father from going off the handle on me. Unfortunately, they live like 200 miles upstate and have like 5 kids so their hands are full. I also have a niece who is like 11 years older than me and not a witness who lives in the same county as me. Dad has a little grudge against her. He doesn't really get along with her even though she is seriously like a mother to me. We have a mother son type of bond but she's living with her boyfriend and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that but I think she'd take me in. Her father who is my brother is in prison.
Just wish getting baptized wasn't such a big deal to my father. Why does he have to make it so stressful when it is suppose to be a personal decision? I'm glad to have so much amount of help here. That is the best thing about this forum. I once tried to reason with my dad about 2 months ago but that resulted in a bad physical altercation. In his mind, if it is not a Jehovah's witness, then it's wrong. I like what brusbrother said. I'm going to put on my best behavior and stall without telling a lie. I'm not really interested in the military even though its benefits are great.
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Don't know what to do
by looter ini'm in a crazy situation.
about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.
it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.
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Hello, all. I'm in a crazy situation. About a year ago, I was going to get baptized. It was all planned and arranged until TTATT was learned. We all were about to study the Inspired publication for me to get baptized and since I learned the TTATT I blatantly refused. When my father found out, he became furious and said that if I wasn't baptized by the time I was 18, then he'd kick me out of the house.
We didn't talk about it for like 6 months after that but lately he has been very short tempered in the way he was when he first learned I refused. Will be 18 in 4 months and his attitude right now is making me nervous. I don't know what to do. My mother is homeless and an alcoholic and I really don't want anything to do with her because the people who she hangs out with are part of a bad gang.
So should I just get baptized even knowing TTATT or be homeless? I'm doing pretty well in school right now and have an afterschool job but the way he is acting right now just makes everything unnecessarily intense. I love my father and want him to be happy but don't want to do the wrong thing by getting baptized even though he knows I'm not really into it anymore. What shall I do?
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Groanfest. Share your daftest jokes .
by jhine inlots of serious stuff being discussed on site .
i thought!it would be nice to make each other groan/ smile for a change .please share your corniest ,punniest , or daftest joke .. i will start with this shocker , borrowed from tim vine .. vandalism in a multi story carpark ....... ...................................,............................ wrong on sooo many levels !.
come on now share yours.
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Two Jehova's males in ugly and funky dark blue dress up clothes knock on the door of an elderly woman.
She opens the door and asks who they are.
They tell her that they are Jehova's Witnesses and she lets them both inside.
She authoritatively mandates them to take a seat on her sofa, and asks if they would relish a nice refreshing cup of tea or coffee.
"Two teas would be nice, please, we sure could use it" comes the replication.
Then she asks if they would relish custard creams with their drinks.
"Oh, yes please, that would be lovely, and God surely likes that." comes the replication.
Five minutes later the geriatric woman comes back into the front room and places the drinks and biscuits on the table, sits down and verbalizes, "So what is it that you want to talk to me about?"
The first Jehova shrugs his shoulders and verbalizes, "Oh, we actually don't know ,ma'am, this is the furthest that we have ever got." -
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What is the basis for authority for the governing body?
by Half banana ina word to jehovahs witnesses: what is the basis for the authority the seven members of the governing body can claim in controlling the lives of eight million followers?
the organisation they represent has never got one useful piece of information correct in one hundred and thirty five years... so why should they be believed?.
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They do have a false basis for authority in Matthew. That apparently warrants the followers to believe that the governing body are God's chosen stooges. But that is just it. They believe because they are brainwashed into believing, not that there is actually any proof or basis for worship and recognition. The governing are masters of trickery, but we already know that. -
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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?
by Village Idiot inwhen i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
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maybe like 0.125%. I'm only sure of one person that may know. All the others that seem like they know are just the type of witnesses that believe, but just don't act zealous in it at all. -
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YOU MIGHT BE A J.W.
by brandnew inif getting ready means putting on a suit........ you might be a j.w.. if going out to the field has nothing to do with grass, baseball diamonds, or football ......... you might be a j.w.. please continue my friends.......i know ya got some.....; ).
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You might be a jw
if the best thing you could do after someone just saved your life is give them a tract..
if you visit the same houses for years and have never been inside any..
if the worst thing possible that can happen to your family is not showing up to a meeting..
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YOU MIGHT BE A J.W.
by brandnew inif getting ready means putting on a suit........ you might be a j.w.. if going out to the field has nothing to do with grass, baseball diamonds, or football ......... you might be a j.w.. please continue my friends.......i know ya got some.....; ).
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You might be a jw...
if you have been in the religion since you were born and don't know anything true about the founder...
if the last time you remember sleeping in on a Saturday was when you were a toddler..
if you can go to a 6 hour assembly and the only thing you can remember after you left is when you left...
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They are still lying, even though they revised the FAQ.
by DATA-DOG indo jehovahs witnesses feel that they are the only people who will be saved?.
many millions who lived in centuries past and who werent jehovahs witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation.
the bible explains that in gods promised new world, there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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