in the bible in discussing the debacle about circumcision in the early christian community, the wts states about what they consider the gb:
w98 11/1 p. 5 how to solve problems peacefully.
after a scriptural discussion, the apostles and jerusalem elders came "to a unanimous accord" not to burden uncircumcised believers unnecessarily but to admonish them "to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication.
Hi wannaexit
question: was there a governing body in the first century?
I've never come across that term in the scriptures.
Of course the bible doesn't say it outright but all you have to do is believe, click your heels togethjer and voila everything is ok....
And if all else fails buy (voluntary contribution I mean) the NWT on cassette and play it backwards...It must be there they said so.
my wife will not entertain the thought that the org is not directed by god.
even when presented with constant organizational flip flops she believes its gods direction.
and why not thats what she has been taught since childhood.. is ther anything that seems to work better in reasoning with women inparticular.
As a side note I have made arrangements to talk to a counselor...It will be after the Elders visit which is probably when I'll need it most.
Thanks for all the comforting posts...............Do you think its wise to contact a lawyer before I know exactly where this is heading. If she finds out it will certainly lead her to do the same if she hasn't already.
my wife will not entertain the thought that the org is not directed by god.
even when presented with constant organizational flip flops she believes its gods direction.
and why not thats what she has been taught since childhood.. is ther anything that seems to work better in reasoning with women inparticular.
She is with a relative...She said she loves me but loves Jehovah more. She has read some of the info I left laying around like the flip flips on who will be resurrected, The Finished Mystery and even the UN NGO.
But its me ...I twist everything to make the org look bad. Why can't I give the imperfect men who run the org the respect they deserve. Sure they make mistakes we all do but Jehovah sets things straight.
I guess I'm screwed, I can't go back and she now understands I've only been holding on because I love her and my little sunshine and she says thats not enough.
The elders are coming on Friday night to exercise my demons.....I don't care anymore, bring it on.
my wife will not entertain the thought that the org is not directed by god.
even when presented with constant organizational flip flops she believes its gods direction.
and why not thats what she has been taught since childhood.. is ther anything that seems to work better in reasoning with women inparticular.
She took my the most precious part of my life and left me tonight..............
one of many ways to experience a slice of island culture, the lu'au (loo-ow) is a hawaiian tradition: a feast to celebrate accomplishments, honor important people and commemorate great events.
in old hawai'i it was a time to pay homage to ancestral gods with song, dance and offerings of food, a grand celebration that sometimes lasted for days.. .
lu'au description taken from hawaii.com.
Sorry about that link failure its the April 8 Awake pg 30 Questions from readers and it refers to the article in the June 8 Awake 2002.
Have a good Lu'au or:
Happy party day...thats what we say when we have a party for the little ones in the hall even though half of them start shouting happy birthday to the utter horror of all the adults in attendance....stop that ..stop that Jehovah hates birthdays don't you know the day of your death is more important.
Besides don't you know the baker was beheaded at pharoahs birthday party.....what about the cook.... what happened to the cook?
Next thing you'll want to do is pin the tail on the donkey which is an ancient pagan custom where husbands were made out to be hapless jackasses looking for a little tail.
Cod Ham, Holy peppermint patty what in cheezes name was I thinking goodthing JFR cleaned up the Org of these pagan practises.
my wife will not entertain the thought that the org is not directed by god.
even when presented with constant organizational flip flops she believes its gods direction.
and why not thats what she has been taught since childhood.. is ther anything that seems to work better in reasoning with women inparticular.
I'm still attending but its difficult and I was wondering if I stopped would this make my wife see how serious I am about this or would it just make it harder for her as now we become a marked family in the cong and the issue for the latest gossip.
I've been struggling with this...in my mind each meeting is my last but then I go again.
coming at this as a householder rather than an ex-jw, i'd love to hear from any of you about comments from householders that made an impression on you, back when you were active in the door-to-door work.
since the jw's first knocked at my door 13 years ago, i've done my best to give them something to think about every time they knock at my door.
i always introduce myself by name and try to get their names.
For me it was when we pointed out to someone using the Reasoning book on the subject of religion where it states (would you drink a glass of water if it had even a little bit of poison in it). He said everything seems to have a little bit of poison in it. He then said if we were to look at our religion many people believe it has poison as well and have we not abandoned many beliefs we once taught.Of course we told him the light gets brighter. That reasoning now reminds me of Arnold in True Lies when he admitted he had killed people but he said (Yes but they were all bad)
Most embarrassing moment at a door : An irate householder screamed at us saying who sent you here and the zealot with me threw his hands in the air and said (Jehovah God sent us) I slithered back to the car.
one of many ways to experience a slice of island culture, the lu'au (loo-ow) is a hawaiian tradition: a feast to celebrate accomplishments, honor important people and commemorate great events.
in old hawai'i it was a time to pay homage to ancestral gods with song, dance and offerings of food, a grand celebration that sometimes lasted for days.. .
lu'au description taken from hawaii.com.
AS promised it was actually in an Awake.
There is also some dandy info from the faithful and discreet slave about brushing your hair.....Fantastic.
my wife will not entertain the thought that the org is not directed by god.
even when presented with constant organizational flip flops she believes its gods direction.
and why not thats what she has been taught since childhood.. is ther anything that seems to work better in reasoning with women inparticular.
Thanks all ......would you suggest a cold turkey approach to meetings.
I have still been going but It would gag a maggot the way my stomach turns when I have to endure listening to what I now know is crap.
the toronto globe and mail did a survey, asking if jws should be required to get a permit to go door to door.
73% said yes: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/gis.servlets.page/document/polls/pollresults?id=19187&pollid=19187&save=_save&show_vote_always=no&poll=gamfront&hub=front&subhub=voteresult.
too bad the courts don't agree.
Hi runningman thanks for your recent encouragement
I was wondering if for the vote you mentioned here did you get one vote for every ten dollars contributed or was it somehow unfair and you actually only got one vote per person
