Good research. The first one and the one about the numbers are real good to show. The last quote doesn't make any sense, what about the life or a child, doesnt he or she deserve to live? I mean a baby is still a living human being. Justyfing the baby's death by saying he wasn't circumcised or had enough consciousness to appreciate life completely ignores the reasons the Watchtower gives against abortion. Also, doesn't Deutoronomy 24: 16 in a way, contradict the Adam and Eve story?
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Some memorable quotes I dug up
by sd-7 incult members often isolate themselves from friends, family, and even society in general.
is that the case with jehovahs witnesses?
are the witnesses using deceptive and unethical techniques to recruit members?.
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Doesn't the ARMAGEDDON teaching foster a MORBID view of the future?
by Black Man ineven when i was dyed-in-the-wool j-dub, i felt the armageddon teaching was one of the most morbid concepts to be hammered into the psyches of jws.
think about it, only jws would survive this catastrophe, which translates to roughly .001 percent of the population would survive while everyone else would die a horrible death.
that includes people who do good things and are good people, but are just not jws.
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This teaching is very morbid and repulsive. Like Redvip2000 said, JWs just think of the prize, screw everyone else since they gave out "the warning" and people didn't convert to their religion. I don't think they really put themselves in other peoples positions and realize there are other points of view than what theirs is and that's why many people don't follow them. This teaching was one of the things that got me questioning. At first I didn't really think of the everyone dying senario, just getting through and the after. It wasn't until I really thought about it that I started to see the bigger picture.
My mom (who's realized that I'm having some doubts and not really concerned with going to meetings or the field service) threatened me with death at Armageddon twice if I didn't follow the organization and get serious with it. What really hit me was the second time when she said that I wouldn't make it. She'd have to wipe the tears off her face and bury me, but then she said she wouldn't even be able to find me under the mass amount of corpses lying around. That made really pushed it on how repulsive they can get people to think that, even of their own sons and daughters!
I know of one elder who's told me twice that he wants to get Michael Jordan's or Kobe Bryant's mansion. He said he's praying to Jehovah to let him have that place and not to destroy it at Armageddon. The whole time I was thinking: what's wrong with this guy?? Doesn't he know what he's saying?? looking forward for someone to die so they could take their house is really messed up and sad.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-09-2014 WT Study (QUICKLY SHAKEN)
by blondie inthe wts?.
we request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason.2 thess.
(1 tim.
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Good analyzing Blondie!
They're really bring down the hatches on people now. they're afraid that people are starting to question things since it's been 100 years. During the meeting, the conductor gave an example to stay away from anyone that made a comment on disbelief of the new teachings like the faithful and discreet slave. He said it's a sign of an apostate or the beginnings of being one. One wrong thing to say and you're a suspect. Reminds me a lot of 1984.
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A JW sitcom?
by Island Man inhas anyone ever thought of creating a jw sitcom?
i mean, there's enough humor and drama in jw culture to keep audiences entertained for multiple seasons.
we have judicial committees, c.o.
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This could work, but I see it more as short skits on the internet like on a YouTube channel. There's a lot of people that do things like that nowadays with high looking productions, and it's not difficult to make. If it were a tv show, a group of different skits all put together (field service, elders meeting, family worship, etc.), or a mockumentaday style filmed like Modern Family or the Office would do. I'd make it the characters a JW family with the dad as an elder and have a comedic family friend from the congregation. Then they could come across different experiences that would be made funny, like one of the kids explaining how he had to resist the delicious looking birthday day cake at school, or how another kid competes with the family friend on who will place the most Assembly invitations at field service. Then you can see them stuffing the invitations in people's mailboxes and running door to door. I'm liking this idea.
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The True Story Behind the Smurf Urban Legend
by God_Delusion inhi guys,.
i finally tracked down the origins of the smurf urban legend.
it's taken me a while to get this story so i hope you enjoy it.. please let me know your thoughts on it.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/urban-legends/smurf/.
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haha, good story, I can already picture this being made into a short "horror" film online like YouTube. I found it ironic that the smurf is called Apollyon since JWs believe he's Jesus.
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Watching Amish Shunned on PBS...very deja vu if you are/were a JW!
by tenyearsafter inthis is a very interesting documentary...the similarities are so close, you could substitute jw for amish!
anyone else watching this?.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/introduction/shunned-introduction/.
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I'm watching it now. It's very interesting, there are many parallels you can make with the JWs; call for obedience, staying in place, women are to be submissive, rules of how to live life, shunning, seperation/fear of the outside world etc. But they're more extreme in their way of life and rules.
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Anybody catch "New Girl" with Prince
by wearewatchingyouman ini just caught the last few minutes and counted at least three disfellowshipping worthy actions portrayed.
he was alone in his room with a girl.
he practiced magic.
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I attended that Assmbley building as a kid, right up until they sold it. I didn't know that Michael Jackson helped fund that place.
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Anybody catch "New Girl" with Prince
by wearewatchingyouman ini just caught the last few minutes and counted at least three disfellowshipping worthy actions portrayed.
he was alone in his room with a girl.
he practiced magic.
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I saw most of the episode, it was entertaining. Prince sounded really monotone with his acting, like he was bored. Didn't know he had such a high voice when singing haha. The elders might counsel him on some points or give him a hard time just like they did with Michael Jackson. My dad was wondering if he was wearing a wig since he has his hair very long by JW standards
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Disrupting literature carts
by perfect1 ini am ready for a little guerilla warfare (no one gets hurt, of course).
but these literature carts in the city need to go.
everytime i walk by its all i can do to keep from knocking the thing over.. any ideas on how to destroy their little stash of paper.. so far my best idea is water, pouring water all over it.
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It isn't such a good idea to do that. They'll threaten to call the police and they have permits that allow them to be there. Then they'll try to move you away from the carts. That's the procedure incase someone comes and interupts. Plus like others here have said, it reinforces the whole persecution idea and there are other people around looking. Try another more subtle method.
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...What do you Do,when People Ask You for Spare Change?...
by OUTLAW in.. .........................some people are truly in need..some are not... a man passing by on his 10 speed bike,asked me for $2.00 for a cup of coffee... .................................................."uhhh,no"... ............another asked me for spare change outside a super market... ......................................i said i didn`t have any... ...................so he say`s "how about a credit card?!"......lol!!...
.. ....................what do you do,when people ask you for spare change?...
..... .. ..........................................whats the most outrageous thing... ......................................you`ve been asked forby a stranger?...
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I ride the subway often so I see people who ask for spare change. I only give them money if I feel like it and depending if they look like they really need it. I use to feel bad when I didn't give anything but after sometime I noticed it's usually the same ol'beggars. Like one lady brings holds a card box sign asking for money while holding a child in her arms and pregnant. Most people I see dont give her money, I doubt she's in such a desperate state to be like that from the looks of her. My guess is that it's just a way to get people to give her money.
Oddly enough, there was one guy who asked for 40 cents at the stop I take the subway at. I did give him spare change the first time. A few days later I see him at the stop I get off at and he's asking for the same amount: 40 cents. I saw him do that another day. Another time I was feeling generous enough to give a guy some change. It wasn't a lot and he complains to me as I walk away. I'm just thinking to myself: I was nice enough to stop and give you spare change and you're complaining to me??